The cloud sucks unless you're the one selling it. However, where the cloud is useful is if you need something out of band. ;-)
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 8:42:08 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik Nobody make a product anymore and sells it. Its all subscription based. Its royally pissing me off too. I mean even in app games if you wanna remove ads you could just buy the game. NOW you need to pay $10 to remove ads for A MONTH or a period of time. Anyhoo.. as far as CHR - I've messed around with it on Amazon and it does work. Quite cool actually ....but I've found after crunching the numbers over the years its still way cheaper running your own hardware in your own NOC than in the cloud. I've had servers run for 9 years giving me way more ROI than any monthly subscription could. If properly maintained. Not to mention you are taking your own destiny into your own hands instead of placing them in a 3rd party's possession. Now if you don't have the staff or time to manage things then yeah you will need to pay someone else for their expertise in putting it all together. I think a hybrid solution is the overall best solution. The best of both worlds. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Seth Mattinen" <se...@rollernet.us> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 12:53:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik On 6/10/20 6:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Oh, for sure. Virtualized routers are where the industry is going, whether > it's a VM running on your compute infrastructure or on your switch\router. No thanks, because here comes the annual subscriptions. Cisco already went that way with CSR 1000V. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but the majority of the industry is sure to go that way too. At least the first sale doctrine applies to hardware. Tired of fucking subscriptions for every damn thing. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com