The cloud sucks unless you're the one selling it.

However, where the cloud is useful is if you need something out of band.  ;-)



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org>
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 8:42:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik




Nobody make a product anymore and sells it. Its all subscription based. Its 
royally pissing me off too. I mean even in app games if you wanna remove ads 
you could just buy the game. NOW you need to pay $10 to remove ads for A MONTH 
or a period of time. 


Anyhoo.. as far as CHR - I've messed around with it on Amazon and it does work. 
Quite cool actually ....but I've found after crunching the numbers over the 
years its still way cheaper running your own hardware in your own NOC than in 
the cloud. I've had servers run for 9 years giving me way more ROI than any 
monthly subscription could. If properly maintained. Not to mention you are 
taking your own destiny into your own hands instead of placing them in a 3rd 
party's possession. 


Now if you don't have the staff or time to manage things then yeah you will 
need to pay someone else for their expertise in putting it all together. 


I think a hybrid solution is the overall best solution. The best of both 
worlds. 


-- 
Steven Kenney 
Network Operations Manager 
WaveDirect Telecommunications 
http://www.wavedirect.net 
(519)737-WAVE (9283) 



From: "Seth Mattinen" <se...@rollernet.us> 
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 12:53:22 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik 



On 6/10/20 6:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> Oh, for sure. Virtualized routers are where the industry is going, whether 
> it's a VM running on your compute infrastructure or on your switch\router. 


No thanks, because here comes the annual subscriptions. Cisco already 
went that way with CSR 1000V. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but the majority of 
the industry is sure to go that way too. At least the first sale 
doctrine applies to hardware. Tired of fucking subscriptions for every 
damn thing. 

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