vaccines are a cool thing and all, but i cannot find a single successful
coronavirus vaccine for humans. weve been chasing this forever with the
common cold coronavirus. If vaccines were just a simple "we need 18 months"
HIV wouldnt exist. I may be wrong because searches right now only tend to
come back with COVID19 variant responses, so there may be other coronavirus
that have had successful vaccines developed, i just can find zero
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 12:17 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yah. I'm pretty sure there are lots of places that know how to make a
> vaccine; maybe dozens. I saw an interview with Bill Gates the other day
> where he pointed out that he is backing the 6 or 7 vaccine developments
> that show the most promise. That said, they still won't be able to deploy
> even the most likely one until early next year. Flu is also different in
> that we have numerous flu strains that seem to be on kind of a rotation.
> They ramp up production of the couple most likely to be coming around on
> the guitar every year. Sometimes they guess pretty well (I think this year
> they did pretty well), sometimes they don't do so well.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 4/29/2020 10:03 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> I get your point, but to be technically correct, which in all honesty I
> might not be, I think they know how to make a vacine for COVID, but its
> tnroduction and spread was at such a rapid pace they hadn't time to do it.
> I believe the production is the same method as for the flu, it'll just be
> to late.
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:57 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My point wasn't fear mongering, but to put some kind of perspective on
>> it. The observation I had was that Vietnam killed about 241 people per
>> month (on average) vs the CV19 killing more than 100 times that. Comparing
>> to flu is semi-relevant as it is also a virus, except that we know how to
>> make vaccines in semi-anticipation of it, and it is considerably less
>> deadly either way.
>>
>> If you can't measure it, you don't know what you have.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 4/29/2020 9:41 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>
>> The point was that there are lots of things that cause as many deaths or
>> more, but we aren't comparing them to people killed in Vietnam. They
>> specifically did this to try to raise an emotional point with people who
>> are touchy about the Vietnam conflict. It is just as relevant to compare
>> auto deaths with war casualties as it is with a virus. Neither have
>> anything to do with each other. It is fear mongering plain and simple.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:30 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Flu has vaccine and Tamiflu. Without those, Flue would probably clear
>>> 2-300k annually. if we wanted to compare apples and apples.
>>> look to where the data saying that the destructin of society was
>>> effective is coming from. Its only coming from places that gain by that.
>>> Here is a secret, we didnt actually isolate. the stores are packed more
>>> than before, people who normally wouldnt have interacted are passing one
>>> another then came home and compressed families. We hot boxed is all that
>>> actually took place.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:48 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess the difference is, you don’t do anything different and 66,000
>>>> people will get flu.
>>>> That is what the estimate is up to April 10 this year. We live with
>>>> it. Mostly old folks.
>>>>
>>>> But behaving the same way and you may have 300,000 corona deaths in
>>>> addition to the regular flu.
>>>> Just breathing on someone doesn’t give them the flu.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:31 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hope?
>>>>
>>>> I don't think those are great comparisons but I think the Flu is.
>>>> 66,000 died last year from the flu in the US and we still managed to walk
>>>> around and shake hands. But hey, if you think you might die, stay home.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:04 AM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why don't we put out graphs every year when we reach that many
>>>>> automobile deaths, or flu deaths, or heart disease deaths, or any other
>>>>> deaths in a specific category? Sensationalism and fear mongering rule the
>>>>> day.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:59 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is that surprising. How many people did we put in country
>>>>>> throughout the war? There are 330 million here. If we had put 330 million
>>>>>> through Vietnam, we would have "won" and lost even more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep seeing the Vietnam thing and then laugh at the thought that
>>>>>> those present it also present statistics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 8:37 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting that today, April 28, we surpassed in a couple of months
>>>>>>> the number of US personnel killed in the Vietnam war over the course of
>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>> years (1955-1975).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/28/2020 6:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
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