I heard another Theory last night that UBNT had too many of the Kits in stock, and now they're trying to get them sold off before they start offering piecemeal parts again.

Some beancounter probably had their eyes light up when they thought of the Kit idea, and it was met with enthusiastic nods around the conference table, after seeing all the glossy charts with arrows pointing up, and giant dollar signs and Moneybags.  Then nobody bought them, so other parts are just magically 'unavailable' now to drive up kit sales.

On 4/28/2020 8:26 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
Agreed.  I’ve sold a bunch of them and they’ve been solid if unspectacular...but the price was right for certain applications.

I’m REALLY concerned about their new kit program.  They said they would sell the bare radios again, but that hasn’t happened yet.

If you have a link (depending on where you are) longer than 7-8 miles, you need bigger/better dishes than their 2.5’ dish.  Right now, you have to buy the kit and the other dishes and hope you have a use for the 2.5’ dishes down the road.  Horribly wasteful.  Radiowave and KP built dishes specifically for the AF-11.  They are really screwed right now.

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On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:16 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:


While the 11 has issues and other vendors have far superior products - something was wrong if you faded in the rain at 5 miles.

On Apr 27, 2020, at 11:51 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is why I'm moving away from UBNT for 11ghz backhauls. They jacked the price up on the stand alone units. Stock has been non-existent since November/December which was the last time I was able to order stand alone AF11 radios. Now a rumor they will never sell them again without their crappy dish? Which BTW has steel bolts on that you know will turn to rust in a couple years which really pisses me off. I know that other brands cost about 2x-2.5x like Aviat but for the same licensed 80mhz channel you can get 1.4gbps full duplex and I have never seen a AF11 radio actually push over 600 meg. Had a 5 mile and 6 mile AF11 link fade in the rain just as bad as a AF24 would on a 3-4 mile shot. I'm going all Aviat from here on out, 11, 18, 80ghz. Their pricing is extremely competitive. Ken is awesome, always emails me back within 30 minutes with any questions I have. Hell you can buy a 80ghz link that is keyed up for 10gbps full duplex for $5200 out the door. Siklu's promo for $4200 link will only do 2gbps which you can't even get from Baltic because they are sold out.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 5:14 PM Chuck Macenski <ch...@macenski.com <mailto:ch...@macenski.com>> wrote:

    Sorry, ignore that. I will forward this issue internally so that
    the AF11 is added. So many changes, so little time...

    On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:10 PM Chuck Macenski
    <ch...@macenski.com <mailto:ch...@macenski.com>> wrote:

        https://www.ui.com/distributors/stock-locator/

        On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:33 PM Nate Burke
        <n...@blastcomm.com <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:

            From Streakwave? They're the one's that told me this
            morning they were never going to get them.

            On 4/27/2020 3:30 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
            Streakwave was telling me that originally too, but it
            was during the change of the model number of the
            standalone radio.  Now that the model number for the
            stand alone radio is changed, price is a bit higher,
            but they are once again available.

            Sent from my iPhone

            On Apr 27, 2020, at 14:26, Nate Burke
            <n...@blastcomm.com> <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

             One distributor I talked to said they were being
            told by UBNT that their Single Radio order would never
            be fulfilled....

            On 4/27/2020 3:20 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote:
            That rumor is incorrect. The AF11 radio is available
            as a stand-alone SKU.

            https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-airfiber/products/af-11

            Chuck

            On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM Sean Heskett
            <af...@zirkel.us <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:

                Why in the world would you buy crappy radios from
                a crappy company that likes to frivolously sue
                its customers and distributors?  They also seem
                to like to discontinue products at the drop of a hat.

                Not gonna build my business model around a crappy
                company like that.

                2 cents

                -Sean


                On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:05 PM Nate Burke
                <n...@blastcomm.com <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>>
                wrote:

                    I've heard a rumor that the only way to buy
                    an AF11 radio now is in a
                    kit with Radio+Single Diplexer+Dish.  Single
                    radios cannot be
                    purchased.  How can you keep spares of
                    equipment if that's the case?

                    The price has gone up too.  We were getting
                    bare radios for $585 last
                    year.  Now if you break the cost out of the
                    Dishes and Diplexers from
                    the Kit, it's $680 for just the radio.  And
                    places that have bare radios
                    listed in their online stores (but have no
                    stock) have a single radio in
                    the $900 range.

                    Is UBNT Just trying to kill the 3rd party
                    Antenna market?  Or were they
                    having problems interfacing to other dishes 
                    because of their unique N
                    connector method?  The part that really
                    annoys me is that I can't just
                    have spare radios sitting on the shelf.

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