yes you are right.

Erich Kaiser
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:12 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> More like 4.9 to 7.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:35 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum
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> Two of the UNII  bands are heavily used for licensed PTP and I mean
> heavily, so really if the AFC system works correctly most of the spectrum
> proposed will likely be unuseable outdoor.  I feel like from a reliability
> standpoint it will be tough to count on a system that uses AFC in general.
>  What about the Antenna being used on these APs are they going to be able
> to cover the entire band from 5Ghz to 6Ghz efficiently?  Just thinking...
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> Erich Kaiser
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> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 5:24 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
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> from Fred Goldstein via the wispa list:
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> "There are really two different types of devices approved today. A
> Standard Power device, allowed +36 dBm EIRP, must communicate daily with an
> AFC that determines what frequencies are available at its location. It must
> have geolocation. (We are waiting to see the final Order to see how the
> "client AP" is handled.) The rules for the AFC are reasonably conservative,
> so the licensed PtP users are generally pretty happy with it. And a whole
> bunch of companies have already been working on AFCs.
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> The Low Power Indoor device, on the other hand, does not require AFC. It
> is limited to indoor use only (must have mains power, may not be
> weatherproof, must be labeled) and is allowed +30 dBm EIRP (clients +24
> dBm). Since those can use any frequency, the incumbents are a wee bit
> concerned. But between building entry losses (pretty high at 6 GHz) and the
> directionality of the FS dishes, harmful interference is unlikely. That is
> likely to be a volume market for Wi-Fi 6e. The higher-end business stuff,
> and ours, will be standard power.
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> The FNPRM asks about Very Low Power outdoor operation without AFC. Like
> cell phones and small hotspots. It also asks about higher power for
> AFC-controlled devices."
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> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 4:07 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
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> Yep...lots of buzz from this
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> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 3:47 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
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> WISPA said they are waiting for them to release the order.  they are
> hoping it's 36db...there's a chance it's only 30db.
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> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:42 PM Tim Withrow via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
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> I learned that the FCC approved 1200Mhz of unlicensed spectrum in 6
> Gigahertz today.
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> any idea what Eirp they approved for fixed wireless?
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