More like 4.9 to 7.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

 

Two of the UNII  bands are heavily used for licensed PTP and I mean heavily, so 
really if the AFC system works correctly most of the spectrum proposed will 
likely be unuseable outdoor.  I feel like from a reliability standpoint it will 
be tough to count on a system that uses AFC in general.   What about the 
Antenna being used on these APs are they going to be able to cover the entire 
band from 5Ghz to 6Ghz efficiently?  Just thinking...

 

 

 

 

 




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On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 5:24 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

from Fred Goldstein via the wispa list:

 

"There are really two different types of devices approved today. A Standard 
Power device, allowed +36 dBm EIRP, must communicate daily with an AFC that 
determines what frequencies are available at its location. It must have 
geolocation. (We are waiting to see the final Order to see how the "client AP" 
is handled.) The rules for the AFC are reasonably conservative, so the licensed 
PtP users are generally pretty happy with it. And a whole bunch of companies 
have already been working on AFCs.


The Low Power Indoor device, on the other hand, does not require AFC. It is 
limited to indoor use only (must have mains power, may not be weatherproof, 
must be labeled) and is allowed +30 dBm EIRP (clients +24 dBm). Since those can 
use any frequency, the incumbents are a wee bit concerned. But between building 
entry losses (pretty high at 6 GHz) and the directionality of the FS dishes, 
harmful interference is unlikely. That is likely to be a volume market for 
Wi-Fi 6e. The higher-end business stuff, and ours, will be standard power.

The FNPRM asks about Very Low Power outdoor operation without AFC. Like cell 
phones and small hotspots. It also asks about higher power for AFC-controlled 
devices."

 

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 4:07 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yep...lots of buzz from this

 

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 3:47 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

WISPA said they are waiting for them to release the order.  they are hoping 
it's 36db...there's a chance it's only 30db.

 

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:42 PM Tim Withrow via AF <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

I learned that the FCC approved 1200Mhz of unlicensed spectrum in 6 Gigahertz 
today. 

any idea what Eirp they approved for fixed wireless?

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