I think Josh is referring to a situation typically in an LLC or S-Corp where 
someone runs the company but takes little or no salary and then takes large 
distributions to avoid FICA and social security.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 1:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

Corporation
I am a minority shareholder.
My wife is the majority shareholder.  But you still don’t have to pay 
shareholders anything.
If they are on the board of directors they can earn a directors fee.

From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

I thought it was bad to have a business and not pay the owners "a reasonable 
salary".

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:46 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
dunno...  Why pay FICA for myself when I don’t need to?   I can take a 
repayment on notes payable if I want money without any tax implication.  Or I 
can take a directors fee without FICA if I want to take money.  But what in the 
hell am I going to do with a bunch of money in my checking account?  I can buy 
more TSLA I guess.  I would rather have a Mincon pneumatic hammer drill setup 
for my directional drills.

Resisting the urge to buy a Tesla or an airplane.  I do miss the C-210 with 
known ice capability.  But an ultralight would be more fun.
Could do a sailboat but I would probably never use it.   I used to sail on the 
Great Salt Lake.

I am just fortunate to be semi-retired and not really wanting for anything.
Other than visits from kids and grandkids.

In other words “I have sufficient for my needs”.
Maybe a water jet or a CNC laser...

From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

Why were you not?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:19 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
We are still going to keep it sequestered.  I should have been paying myself...

From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:02 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

It's my understanding that in 8 weeks all you have to do is prove you did 
payroll for 75% of the amount loaned.  In your case, show 90k came out of the 
account to payroll.  The reports that the payroll company does, I'm told, 
should suffice.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:17 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
Lewis,
Are you taking any special measures to be able to prove you used the loan 
proceeds for approved uses?
Kinda hard when they get comingled with other funds in a general checking 
account.
I think we put them in a separate savings account.

From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

$10k? How many people do you have? I think I got nearly $500k between all the 
companies.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 7:01 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Got our supposedly to be forgiven $10K loan today.  We shall see...
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