Smart vs Back operate differently.  Probably the most annoying one, is that
Back will have no output power when utility is hot but the battery is bad.
So your tower goes down when the power is just fine, but the battery is a
little old.

XL is faster charger, yes.  That recovers battery voltage when the power
comes on.  I guess it might be good if your power goes up/down a lot, but
in my experience it stays up when it's back up.

As far as web/SNMP monitoring we use the PacketFlux site monitor usually.
It works at 100% of AC sites.  In a couple data center like sites I do have
the 961x cards and I will admit they're nicer overall.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> I’ve heard a lot of people say the key wasn’t Smart or Dumb, but XL or not
> XL, on the premise that the XL models had a more robust charger.  But I
> guess that’s for tower sites.
>
>
>
> I’ve run the little 500 VA BackUPS models for a long time with just a
> battery change every 3-5 years.  They had several different model numbers
> but all looked similar.  The larger tower models always seemed to get
> swollen batteries that would get wedged inside.  The best SmartUPS model
> for me was the 1400 VA rackmount XL.  Those didn’t seem to destroy
> batteries like the tower models.
>
>
>
> What problems did you have with the BackUPS models?  For a home UPS you
> probably aren’t using the web or SNMP monitoring.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2020 1:50 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Good Home UPS
>
>
>
> I've seen them at home because we threw them away at work.  I regretted it
> every time and just threw them away, or replaced it with Smart UPS.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:29 AM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>
> On 3/30/20 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > No.  Just no.  No.  Back UPS are terrible.  Smart-UPS have been great to
> > us over the years.
> >
> > 100% of our issues are Back UPS related.
>
>
> I'll use a Back-UPS at home, but that's about it.
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