Nobody could argue that an auction was gouging could they?  Does EBay still do auctions?

On 3/23/2020 11:04 AM, James Howard wrote:

Just think how much you could sell those masks for on Ebay!  Oh wait, they’re not allowing price gouging are they.

*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
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I got this this morning from China


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3:29 AM (4 hours ago)

        
        

to me

Hi dear,

I am Cicely from the samotoy store but i am so sorry to tell you that your order now is trapped in the Customs by the bad virus throughout the world ,so could we resend another one to you?

We would like to resend the item with 2 face mask together to show our apology.

Please let me know if i can resend the item for you.

Looking forward to receiving your reply.

Ummm, no, I dont think i want those death masks

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:07 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    I'm pretty sick of the conspiracy theories at this point.  The only
    "evidence" anyone has pointed me at so far is nut-case bloggers. 
    You're
    implying that the quarantine could have been perfect except they
    intentionally let some people out who were destined to specific
    countries.  That's not realistic.

    Quarantines always leak and the leak gets bigger over time.  You let
    somebody out because they're important or necessary to have
    outside the
    quarantine, then they want to get their family and friends out, so
    they
    pull strings or sneak them out.  That's the early leaks. Nobody
    realistically encircles the whole province, so it's only effective
    until
    people decide not to stay anymore. That's where the leak gets
    bigger.  A
    quarantine is a best effort.  It's also understood that
    bureaucrats in
    China are not adverse to taking bribes (I'm sure some of ours do
    too).
    "Closing a border" is only going to work when people actually are
    willing to comply with the order not to cross.

    So to think a quarantine in Wuhan was going to be perfect except for
    when they wanted it to be is not realistic.  As a parallel incident,
    even the actual fascist gestapo couldn't keep all the Jews in Germany.

    You haven't gone as far as to claim that the Chinese created the
    virus,
    but in case you were wondering: actual subject matter experts have
    been
    quite clear that this is a natural mutation of an existing virus. 
    How
    they know that is beyond my ken, but I'm more inclined to believe
    them
    than to believe randos on the Internet.

    There's nobody to blame for this.  The Chinese didn't create the
    virus
    in a lab.  The Chinese didn't attack us with a virus. Until you see
    some credible evidence to the contrary I would appreciate not hearing
    more about it.  It might give you a direction in which to channel
    your
    frustrations, but it adds nothing useful to the discussion and
    provides
    no solutions.

    -Adam


    On 3/22/2020 6:00 PM, Tyson Burris wrote:
    > I do understand China has no regard for civil liberties and human
    > rights so their lockdown in Wuhan as Marshall Law was effective.
    Yet,
    > if it was so good to protect other cities of China, how did this
    virus
    > so easily escape to outside the country.  Why are some of China’s
    > perhaps favored countries less prone?

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