We have an infection here in the town i live in, small town like 25k
people. Im curious to see how the morons react. I see torches and
pitchforks in the future

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:38 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> this is actually legit, its a tool i ordered back in january, shipped from
> wuhan, but got caught in the first quarantine
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:24 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I bet cicely is a Nigerian*.
>>
>> *Nigerian conspiracy claim is made with no evidence.
>> On 3/23/2020 9:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> I got this this morning from China
>>
>>
>> cic...@sunmoon.work <cic...@sunmoon.work>
>> 3:29 AM (4 hours ago)
>>
>> to me
>> Hi dear,
>> I am Cicely from the samotoy store but i am so sorry to tell you that
>> your order now is trapped in the Customs by the bad virus throughout the
>> world ,so could we resend another one to you?
>> We would like to resend the item with 2 face mask together to show our
>> apology.
>> Please let me know if i can resend the item for you.
>> Looking forward to receiving your reply.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ummm, no, I dont think i want those death masks
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:07 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty sick of the conspiracy theories at this point.  The only
>>> "evidence" anyone has pointed me at so far is nut-case bloggers.  You're
>>> implying that the quarantine could have been perfect except they
>>> intentionally let some people out who were destined to specific
>>> countries.  That's not realistic.
>>>
>>> Quarantines always leak and the leak gets bigger over time.  You let
>>> somebody out because they're important or necessary to have outside the
>>> quarantine, then they want to get their family and friends out, so they
>>> pull strings or sneak them out.  That's the early leaks.  Nobody
>>> realistically encircles the whole province, so it's only effective until
>>> people decide not to stay anymore. That's where the leak gets bigger.  A
>>> quarantine is a best effort.  It's also understood that bureaucrats in
>>> China are not adverse to taking bribes (I'm sure some of ours do too).
>>> "Closing a border" is only going to work when people actually are
>>> willing to comply with the order not to cross.
>>>
>>> So to think a quarantine in Wuhan was going to be perfect except for
>>> when they wanted it to be is not realistic.  As a parallel incident,
>>> even the actual fascist gestapo couldn't keep all the Jews in Germany.
>>>
>>> You haven't gone as far as to claim that the Chinese created the virus,
>>> but in case you were wondering: actual subject matter experts have been
>>> quite clear that this is a natural mutation of an existing virus.  How
>>> they know that is beyond my ken, but I'm more inclined to believe them
>>> than to believe randos on the Internet.
>>>
>>> There's nobody to blame for this.  The Chinese didn't create the virus
>>> in a lab.  The Chinese didn't attack us with a virus.  Until you see
>>> some credible evidence to the contrary I would appreciate not hearing
>>> more about it.  It might give you a direction in which to channel your
>>> frustrations, but it adds nothing useful to the discussion and provides
>>> no solutions.
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/22/2020 6:00 PM, Tyson Burris wrote:
>>> > I do understand China has no regard for civil liberties and human
>>> > rights so their lockdown in Wuhan as Marshall Law was effective. Yet,
>>> > if it was so good to protect other cities of China, how did this virus
>>> > so easily escape to outside the country.  Why are some of China’s
>>> > perhaps favored countries less prone?
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