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On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:05 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > I think these were larger than that. There was a tower guy standing next > to one of the panels they had just mounted on the tower and it was almost > as big as him. The standoff frames also seemed bigger than normal. > > > > It’s hard to tell antenna size without something else like a tower guy for > comparison. I remember a Peanuts comic where Lucy looks like she is flying > a kite way, way up in the sky but it turns out to just be a tiny kite not > very far away. Charlie Brown doesn’t know this and is jealous. Only > Peanuts comic that made me laugh. And thanks to Google and the Internet, I > can actually find it: > > > > https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1955/03/13 > > > > Hmmm, that’s from 1955. I would have been 5 years old. Families would > fight over the comics pages in the newspaper. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:27 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > Yes, that's what PEG did. Windstream has done it too, throughout the > county. PEG did it in a few locations. > > > > As Sprint is on that tower, is it at all likely it's a Sprint Massive MIMO > antenna? > > > > https://youtu.be/08iAYPxcClk?t=54 > > > > > > It seems smaller than you describe. > > > > I hope to get out to that site on Friday to look. I've also asked a friend > of mine who ATS does most of their work for. > > > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:10:41 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > Excellent. The blue line goes to the tower with the giant panels being > installed. The yellow line about a mile east goes to the tower that I > thought Windstream said was VZW and they could get me fiber at. > > > > So you’re saying the blue line is a spur built by PEG off the DATA project > fiber built with BTOP funding? > > > > I’m still curious what those big panels in arrays of 3 are. I know > cellular antennas have gotten bigger, but I haven’t seen them that big > before. I keep worrying that LAA will arrive and 5 GHz will become useless. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:36 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > You're right in that DATA goes down Duffy. It's just the only significant > network that's anywhere near there. Well, ComEd goes down 30 from 23 to > Rock Falls, but they're not selling to others. > > > > Check the attachment. Yellow across the top is DATA. Vertical yellow on > the right is Windstream. Blue is PEG\Uniti\BlueBird. Brown is a build that > never happened. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:22:22 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > If I’m remembering right, it was on the south tower. Quite low on the > tower, I assume because the tower couldn’t handle the windload otherwise. > > > > I thought the DATA project BTOP fiber went down Duffy to University then > crossed the tracks to Preserve. Also I seem to remember some telco carrier > like Windstream or CenturyLink trying to sell me fiber transport and > checking towers that were on their network. I remember there was one south > of Hinckley. I could be confusing the Kane Rd. tower with the one at > Leland Rd. Which BTW is a weird tower. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2020 8:14 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > Sprint and US Cellular are there. T-Mobile is down on University Rd. I > don't have accurate information for AT&T and Verizon for that area. It does > look like there are three carriers on those two towers, so one of those two > is likely there. > > > > Anything at that site is going to be using Frontier or DATA for fiber, > likely DATA. CenturyLink has some tollway IRUs and then a DeKalb - Dixon - > Galesburg route mostly along country roads. Sprint is along UPRR. MCI is in > a pipeline that goes underneath my farm from St. Charles to Maple Park to > my farm to SW of Shabbona. AT&T goes from Plano to DeKalb to Rockford. > Windstream and PEG Bandwidth\Uniti\BlueBird has some laterals off of DATA > fiber. That might be it for anything remotely close to there. > > > > Sprint is on the south tower per a tower map I have of theirs. US Cellular > is on the North tower, per ULS. Which tower was it on? > > > > Looks like my CCIsites account expired. Sometimes the site diagrams say > who is on the tower. That might clue in who the other carrier is on that > tower. > > > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:21:48 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > US30 and Kane Rd. between Waterman and Shabbona. Just across the RR > tracks. > > > > Two self supporters at the site. I think there’s maybe CenturyLink fiber > there? I should be able to figure out from licenses which cellcos are on > those towers. > > > > Would ATS be Atlantic Tower Services? > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:09 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > Where? I'll go look at it and snap pictures. ;-) > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:03:02 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > I drove by a celltower today where a tower crew (truck said ATS) was > installing arrays of these giant panels. They looked like sheets of > drywall, but actually I’d estimate they were around 3x5 feet. Almost as > tall as the tower guy installing one of them. 3 arrays, each consisting of > 3 of these panels. I’ve never seen such big antennas. They were putting > them fairly low on the tower, maybe because of windload? > > > > I didn’t stop to take photos, I didn’t want them calling the police on me > thinking I was a terrorist or something. But from my description, does > anybody have a guess what these were? This was halfway between 2 small > towns in a rural area, next to a state route and a railroad track (not > commuter). Could these be some sort of multiband 5G antenna, covering all > the low and mid bands? > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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