I think these were larger than that. There was a tower guy standing next to one of the panels they had just mounted on the tower and it was almost as big as him. The standoff frames also seemed bigger than normal.
It’s hard to tell antenna size without something else like a tower guy for comparison. I remember a Peanuts comic where Lucy looks like she is flying a kite way, way up in the sky but it turns out to just be a tiny kite not very far away. Charlie Brown doesn’t know this and is jealous. Only Peanuts comic that made me laugh. And thanks to Google and the Internet, I can actually find it: https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1955/03/13 Hmmm, that’s from 1955. I would have been 5 years old. Families would fight over the comics pages in the newspaper. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas Yes, that's what PEG did. Windstream has done it too, throughout the county. PEG did it in a few locations. As Sprint is on that tower, is it at all likely it's a Sprint Massive MIMO antenna? https://youtu.be/08iAYPxcClk?t=54 It seems smaller than you describe. I hope to get out to that site on Friday to look. I've also asked a friend of mine who ATS does most of their work for. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:10:41 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas Excellent. The blue line goes to the tower with the giant panels being installed. The yellow line about a mile east goes to the tower that I thought Windstream said was VZW and they could get me fiber at. So you’re saying the blue line is a spur built by PEG off the DATA project fiber built with BTOP funding? I’m still curious what those big panels in arrays of 3 are. I know cellular antennas have gotten bigger, but I haven’t seen them that big before. I keep worrying that LAA will arrive and 5 GHz will become useless. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas You're right in that DATA goes down Duffy. It's just the only significant network that's anywhere near there. Well, ComEd goes down 30 from 23 to Rock Falls, but they're not selling to others. Check the attachment. Yellow across the top is DATA. Vertical yellow on the right is Windstream. Blue is PEG\Uniti\BlueBird. Brown is a build that never happened. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:22:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas If I’m remembering right, it was on the south tower. Quite low on the tower, I assume because the tower couldn’t handle the windload otherwise. I thought the DATA project BTOP fiber went down Duffy to University then crossed the tracks to Preserve. Also I seem to remember some telco carrier like Windstream or CenturyLink trying to sell me fiber transport and checking towers that were on their network. I remember there was one south of Hinckley. I could be confusing the Kane Rd. tower with the one at Leland Rd. Which BTW is a weird tower. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 8:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas Sprint and US Cellular are there. T-Mobile is down on University Rd. I don't have accurate information for AT&T and Verizon for that area. It does look like there are three carriers on those two towers, so one of those two is likely there. Anything at that site is going to be using Frontier or DATA for fiber, likely DATA. CenturyLink has some tollway IRUs and then a DeKalb - Dixon - Galesburg route mostly along country roads. Sprint is along UPRR. MCI is in a pipeline that goes underneath my farm from St. Charles to Maple Park to my farm to SW of Shabbona. AT&T goes from Plano to DeKalb to Rockford. Windstream and PEG Bandwidth\Uniti\BlueBird has some laterals off of DATA fiber. That might be it for anything remotely close to there. Sprint is on the south tower per a tower map I have of theirs. US Cellular is on the North tower, per ULS. Which tower was it on? Looks like my CCIsites account expired. Sometimes the site diagrams say who is on the tower. That might clue in who the other carrier is on that tower. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:21:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas US30 and Kane Rd. between Waterman and Shabbona. Just across the RR tracks. Two self supporters at the site. I think there’s maybe CenturyLink fiber there? I should be able to figure out from licenses which cellcos are on those towers. Would ATS be Atlantic Tower Services? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas Where? I'll go look at it and snap pictures. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:03:02 PM Subject: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas I drove by a celltower today where a tower crew (truck said ATS) was installing arrays of these giant panels. They looked like sheets of drywall, but actually I’d estimate they were around 3x5 feet. Almost as tall as the tower guy installing one of them. 3 arrays, each consisting of 3 of these panels. I’ve never seen such big antennas. They were putting them fairly low on the tower, maybe because of windload? I didn’t stop to take photos, I didn’t want them calling the police on me thinking I was a terrorist or something. But from my description, does anybody have a guess what these were? This was halfway between 2 small towns in a rural area, next to a state route and a railroad track (not commuter). 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