So security through obscurity. Got it. 

> On Dec 27, 2019, at 10:17 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> wrote:
> 
> temp ips are used until the tcp session ends for that stream. If I have an 
> ssh window open for a  day, the temp IP is still showing in my interface 
> config, but only until that particular ssh session is closed. New tcp 
> sessions for a bank website would use a different temp IP then get expired 
> after an hour or so if nothing else is using that temp address.
> 
> Inbound connections to temp ips that are not already “setup” (similar to a 
> router nat translation rule) would be blocked by the os as temp ips are for 
> outbound connections only.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 20:07, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Second time I’ve heard this. If it’s using random addresses how does 
>> anything communicate back with it?
>> 
>> And things like banks that secure sessions based on ip addresss will break 
>> if the IP changes with each click. 
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 9:58 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> IPv6 uses temporary addresses for sourcing outbound connections.  Some 
>>> random joe trying to connect back to that temp IP they found in their logs 
>>> wont get them anywhere. 
>>> Of course, who knows if your ring doorbell on v6 might actually implement 
>>> temp ipv6 ips. 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You’re putting a lot of faith in that SOHO router. 
>>>> 
>>>> I know NAT is not a firewall, but even poorly configured it takes some 
>>>> effort to open ports. 
>>>> 
>>>> With ipv6 dropping the inbound firewall is rather trivial. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> it's not like that won't be firewalled... NAT doesn't stop anything a 
>>>>> firewall wouldn't. Consumer routers are going to come out of the box with 
>>>>> in incoming deny.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:21 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>> And we want to roll ipv6 out to every device in the house and let them 
>>>>>> on the internet directly....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am no fan of Amazon or of Ring doorbells.  But seriously, you can sue 
>>>>>>> them for not forcing you to use two factor authentication?  Even when 
>>>>>>> the customers say they have no idea what two factor authentication is?  
>>>>>>> As I understand it, these devices weren’t so much hacked as people 
>>>>>>> chose weak passwords, or the same password as something else that had a 
>>>>>>> data breach.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It also seems that the class action suit waiver agreeing to arbitration 
>>>>>>> should get the suit thrown out, but who knows.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/12/27/21039517/amazon-ring-hacking-lawsuit
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m guessing people are filling their homes with “things” that will 
>>>>>>> have similar problems.  Oh, and I had the radio on in the car and the 
>>>>>>> one guy said “Hey Alexa” and the other guy scolded him for saying “the 
>>>>>>> A word”.  Evidently if you give Alexa an instruction on the radio, 
>>>>>>> thousands of houses get their lights turned on or thermostat turned up 
>>>>>>> or whatever.
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