You’re putting a lot of faith in that SOHO router. 

I know NAT is not a firewall, but even poorly configured it takes some effort 
to open ports. 

With ipv6 dropping the inbound firewall is rather trivial. 

> On Dec 27, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
> 
> it's not like that won't be firewalled... NAT doesn't stop anything a 
> firewall wouldn't. Consumer routers are going to come out of the box with in 
> incoming deny.
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:21 PM Matt Hoppes 
>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>> And we want to roll ipv6 out to every device in the house and let them on 
>> the internet directly....
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am no fan of Amazon or of Ring doorbells.  But seriously, you can sue 
>>> them for not forcing you to use two factor authentication?  Even when the 
>>> customers say they have no idea what two factor authentication is?  As I 
>>> understand it, these devices weren’t so much hacked as people chose weak 
>>> passwords, or the same password as something else that had a data breach.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> It also seems that the class action suit waiver agreeing to arbitration 
>>> should get the suit thrown out, but who knows.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/12/27/21039517/amazon-ring-hacking-lawsuit
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’m guessing people are filling their homes with “things” that will have 
>>> similar problems.  Oh, and I had the radio on in the car and the one guy 
>>> said “Hey Alexa” and the other guy scolded him for saying “the A word”.  
>>> Evidently if you give Alexa an instruction on the radio, thousands of 
>>> houses get their lights turned on or thermostat turned up or whatever.
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