If you want to learn with a really really easy YouTube diy solar will be explains how to install a bms, it's just a dumb module that connects with a few wires
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 6:22 AM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: > I'll give you guys the hookup > > > https://batteryhookup.com > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 5:59 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> I am laboring under that same assumption. >> >> *From:* Adam Moffett >> *Sent:* Friday, December 20, 2019 7:09 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS >> >> >> I didn't think you could put Lithium on a dumb float charger. I thought >> they needed special electronics. I'm happy to be educated if I'm wrong >> there. >> >> >> On 12/19/2019 8:06 PM, TJ Trout wrote: >> >> Whatever you do don't use lead acid lithium batteries of varying >> chemistry's are available second-hand extremely lightly-used for the exact >> same price per watt hour and they will last long enough to put them in your >> will >> >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019, 10:50 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Good point, I'll have to confirm that with them. >>> On 12/19/2019 3:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> I hope that Edgepoint doesn’t fry if the input is 1 or 2 volts above 54 >>> VDC. >>> >>> >>> >>> If it sees the unregulated battery string voltage, normally you want an >>> upper limit of 56 volts. 60 would be even better. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2019 2:25 PM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS >>> >>> >>> >>> I could live with either AC or 48V, but 48V would be convenient. >>> >>> I'm looking at the Ubiquiti EdgePoint EP-S16. It takes a 54V DC input, >>> has SFP+ uplink ports and twelve 802.3af/at ports. I don't actually expect >>> to use every port, but in theory you could load that up to over 300W, and >>> if I make sure to size the UPS for the switch then it's more idiot proof >>> when people come along and add stuff. >>> >>> Ubiquiti has a 54V UPS module now, and you can put in 2+0 150W power >>> supplies for 300W total, but it's an indoor case and operating temp only >>> down to 0c. By the time I put that in a heated outdoor box it doesn't look >>> too attractive anymore. >>> >>> I'm very familiar with the Traco and similar products. It would just be >>> hard to beat $650 for a complete system using modular DIN components in a >>> box. There's also something to be said for the simplicity of one part on >>> the BOM. >>> >>> Of course I could use the smaller EdgePoint, but then I don't have the >>> 10Gig uplink. >>> >>> I'm checking with Cyberpower on what happens in an overload >>> condition...maybe the guy who adds one AP too many will realize his mistake >>> very quickly. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/19/2019 3:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> You are looking at 48VDC output, or AC with a 48V battery string? >>> >>> >>> >>> Note that unit seems to have around 700 watt hours of batteries, not >>> bad, but if you are running 300W or 600W of loads, it’s not going to give >>> you much runtime without adding more batteries. >>> >>> >>> >>> We have a couple Alpha Micro350 systems at some small sites, which looks >>> physically similar, but that’s AC output. We only use them at small sites >>> because it’s not enough batteries for a large site. Normally we would put >>> a Traco TSP BCM48 and a TSP360-148 or TSP600-148 in the same enclosure with >>> our other DIN rail equipment and maybe a bunch of 100 Ah batteries in a >>> separate battery box. Or maybe 4 x 22 Ah batteries in the same enclosure, >>> if we don’t need a lot of runtime. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2019 1:33 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor UPS >>> >>> >>> >>> hes building out UPS in a box >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 1:30 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Is there a particular item I should ask him about? >>> >>> On 12/19/2019 2:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>> >>> talk to matt at CTI >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:27 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/fttx/outdoor/cs150u48v3/ >>> >>> I tripped over this guy the other day. They're $650-700 retail and >>> frankly, that's really not a bad price for a one-and-done 48V outdoor >>> power system. >>> >>> <whining> >>> >>> ....but 150W is pretty small. I wish there was a 300W or 600W option. >>> Why does it seem like every product I want is a white whale and that >>> every vendor has something that's like 90% of the way there, but not >>> quite perfect? >>> >>> </whining> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >
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