I need to take your email and make a poster out of it, and read it daily.  
Maybe put the last paragraph on a mug. 

 

Don’t you wish you could do like Centurylink and charge an “Internet Cost 
Recovery Fee” because people use more data?

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/12/lawsuit-forces-centurylink-to-stop-charging-internet-cost-recovery-fee/

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 2:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi and 5 GHz interference

 

We're small but we had a small price increase October of 2018 and added another 
$7,000 per month in revenue. We lost 2 customers from it. So we lost $140 in 
revenue to gain $7,000 more.

 

It was a no brainer. We probably had 5% of customers want clarification of the 
increase above and beyond what we put in the email but everyone else just paid 
more without being mad.

 

Our price increases that we're doing now through June should add a decent 
amount of revenue and we expect to lose less than 15 customers. We would have 
to lose over 200 customers for the price increase to hurt us. If we lose 
anywhere from 1 to 199 customers, we'll still have the same revenue but now 
much higher profit because we eliminated bandwidth usage, support load, and 
freed up equipment from 200 accounts.

 

I see so many wisp's worried about marketshare when they should be thinking 
about profit. I don't want the most customers, I want the highest revenue 
customers because it means less people to support with the same revenue and 
much higher profit. 

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 3:15 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Funny, there is a study, probably an econ professor, the looked at what people 
bought at the car wash.  The majority chose the option one up from the bottom.  

 

In a prior life I eliminated the bottom “economy plan” which actually had the 
majority of our customers due to “the very few customers on this plan” .  

 

People  inside the company thought I was nuts.  I calculated the number of 
people that we would have to lose compared to those being forced up.  If we 
lost more than 200 customers it would have been a boneheaded decision.  We lost 
65 customers.  

 

I still get mentions of this from former employees,   saying it was a 
disasterous decision.  Nope, made us considerably more money each month.  Sorry 
that those employees were not clued into the gambit.  (Do I care....not 
really...)

 

From: Darin Steffl 

Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 1:07 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi and 5 GHz interference

 

Yes the $90 plan on rural pricing and $75 plan on city pricing. 

 

We have lots of customers on old plans at lower pricing that were slowly 
migrating up. Our ARPU is $71 and increasing. Hoping to get it to $80 by June. 

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 3:02 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

I mean which plans are your more popular.  

I would guess the plan one notch up from the bottom?

 

From: Darin Steffl 

Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 12:56 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi and 5 GHz interference

 

Chuck,  

 

We qualify each address to find out which speeds we put them on the best plan 
and price we can if they're in an area with horns. But right now, 80% of our 
new customer installs are rural areas with the higher pricing and lower speed 
plans I linked to. We're no longer building any new sites in town because of 
how busy we are.

 

DSL, Satellite, and cellular have all been getting much worse in our area so 
people are seeking us out more than ever. 

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 2:50 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Which is more popular?

 

From: Darin Steffl 

Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 12:29 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi and 5 GHz interference

 

Rural pricing: 

http://www.mnwifi.com/service-plans/internet-service/fup

 

 

City pricing where we have horns:

http://www.mnwifi.com/service-plans/internet-service/5g-plans/

 

 

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 2:17 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Mind sharing your plan prices?

 

From: Darin Steffl 

Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 12:06 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi and 5 GHz interference

 

We used to charge $50 upfront and $10 per month for Calix. Now we just 
increased our plan prices and give the Calix away for free. 

 

We have 99% take rate when it's free. 

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 12:30 PM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sean, 

 

Do you charge the customer for any up-front hardware costs when you install 
Calix or are you only getting ROI from the $12/monthly ??

 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 3:38 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

We install a Calix as a “trial” so we have visibility into their network and 
voila all their Wi-Fi problems go away.  After the free month trial it becomes 
a paid service and for $12/mo we make sure their Wi-Fi keeps working.  Win-win 
for us and them ;-)

 

-Sean

 

 

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 10:33 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Has anyone figured out a solution to interference with Google WiFi at customers 
fed via 5 GHz?

 

We have found it to be an unsolvable problem due to:

 

1)  Google does not let you set the frequencies

2)  Google does not let you set the channel width (and therefore presumably 
uses 80 MHz channels)

3)  The mesh system presumably uses additional spectrum for the backhaul 
between pucks

4)  Most customers put in 3 of them, virtually guaranteeing at least 1 of them 
will be right near the dish to the tower

5)  Many customers also figure they can put them in outbuildings to get service 
to their shop, barn, etc. (one customer today intended to put one in his wife’s 
“she-shed”)

 

With any other router we just set the channel to a U-NII-1 or DFS channel.  We 
have a fair amount of 3.65 GHz in our network and then it isn’t a problem, but 
the majority is still 5 GHz.

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