I have been guilty of measuring voltage with an ammeter.  But I was probably 12 
years old.  Those types of lessons cost a bit of tuition but they stick with 
you.

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> On Nov 8, 2019, at 5:33 AM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
> 
> For our EE power class (motors, generators, etc.) they decided we should 
> take a lab exam.   My exam time was for the second session.  When the 
> elevator door opened on the lab floor the burnt electrical smell was pretty 
> obvious.    Professor comes walking out of the exam with an armful of 
> equipment heading for the tech repair shop shaking his head and muttering 
> something about “this was a really bad idea”.
> 
> One would think senior level electrical engineering students would know not 
> to yank banana plug patch cords out of DC motors running at full speed.   Or 
> not try to uncouple a paralleled generator by adjusting the power factor to 0 
> (for those of you not EE’s that leads to two generators trying to rip 
> themselves apart).  Or measure voltage with a ammeter.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 2:27 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> 
>> In our motor lab someone asked the prof something similar like reversing 
>> polarity to a DC motor that was fully wound up.
>> I don’t remember the exact question or exactly what he did but I do remember 
>> the result.
>>  
>> The motor tore itself from its moorings and launched across the room..
>>  
>> From: Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:15 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Induction coil voltage
>>  
>> I was an EE undergrad long enough ago that we had a required course called 
>> “Electromechanical Devices”, and popularly referred to as “Motors”.  It had 
>> a lab, and none of the professors wanted to teach Motors Lab, so it usually 
>> fell to the most junior prof, who didn’t want to be there.
>>  
>> We had one whose standard answer to all questions was “Let’s find out.”
>>  
>> Student:  What happens if you open the field coil on a running DC motor?
>> Professor:  Let’s find out.
>>  
>> Student:  What happens if you short the output of the generator in a 
>> motor/generator pair?
>> Professor:  Let’s find out.
>>  
>> Who can guess what we found out?
>> Hints:  a high pitched whirr, and a sudden thunk, were involved.
>>  
>>  
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:53 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Induction coil voltage
>>  
>> I used to have a flashlight that had a coil and magnet just like this.  
>> Shake it for a while and charge a cap that is used to light the light.  
>> Can’t remember if you could shake it and make light in real time.
>>  
>> But yeah, you can certainly use a rectifier and cap to make DC for a DC 
>> motor. 
>>  
>> From: Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:47 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Induction coil voltage
>>  
>> A future project is going to be a primitive motor powered by a battery....I 
>> wonder if I can shake this bugger to make the motor spin.
>>> On 11/7/2019 1:41 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> Yes, it is one cycle of AC. 
>>>  
>>> From: Adam Moffett
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:26 AM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Induction coil voltage
>>>  
>>> So by the way, this activity works with a 4oz (800+ feet) roll of 30AWG 
>>> wrapped around the paper towel tube.
>>> My next point of confusion is this:
>>> An LED obviously has a polarity.  If I connect one LED to the coil and drop 
>>> the magnet through, the LED lights for a moment.  I expected that if I drop 
>>> the magnet N first and S first that it would light up one way and not the 
>>> other.  Instead the LED blinks whichever way I drop the magnet.  So does 
>>> that mean I am getting A/C power with this?  Do I get current in one 
>>> direction with the leading edge of the magnetic field passing through the 
>>> coil and then current the other direction as the trailing edge of the field 
>>> passes?
>>> I ran out of time last night before I got to the point of hooking up both 
>>> LED's.  So if this is A/C then the difference would be which color blinks 
>>> first I suppose.
>>> The point of this was to teach the kids something about electricity, but 
>>> it's turning out that my knowledge on these fundamentals is pretty 
>>> superficial.
>>> -Adam
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> On 11/3/2019 12:19 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>> I wanted to do this science experiment with the kids.  My problem is my 
>>>> LED's don't light up.  It's from a discontinued textbook.  Apparently they 
>>>> sold a kit with the materials for all the projects, but that's no longer 
>>>> available so I'm scrounging in the garage.
>>>> I put a volt meter on the rig and I was only getting 6mV when I dropped 
>>>> the magnet. I doubled the number of coils on the tube and then doubled the 
>>>> number of neodymium magnets and I'm getting closer to 30mV now, but I need 
>>>> closer to 2V to light up an LED, so I'm wondering what would increase the 
>>>> voltage by two orders of magnitude.  Is it based on the number of turns in 
>>>> the coil? 
>>>>  
>>>> <image001.png>
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