New term for my vocabulary – LAN weenie.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 1:33 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] asymmetric routing paths

 

Yeah a router only knows the next hop for a packet not the sequence of hops it 
took to get where it is.  Consequently if you pick any two Internet connections 
and tracert the path in both directions there's a very strong chance the path 
is asymmetric. It's normal and ok.  Or in other words, it's ok as long as one 
path isn't weaker than the other.

I've had one or two LAN weenies talk to me about an asymmetric routing "issue", 
and I just smile and nod and go hunt for the real problem. 

 

On 10/15/2019 2:02 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Normally no issue, the interwebs is asymmetric as it was pointed out to me. 
every time ive come across an issue i suspected was related to asymmetry it 
ended up being something else, like MTU somewhere. We still have split prefixes 
between providers and some on both. Moving the customer lo a locked one 
resolves, moving to other resolves, but then it ends up being something 
unrelated. Assuming both upstream are sufficient for performance

 

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:55 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I have cases where traffic to some customers comes in via upstream provider A 
but the return traffic exits my network via upstream provider B.

 

What kind of problems if any can this cause?

 

I have assumed there is no guarantee that upstream and downstream traffic takes 
the same path across the Internet, even without being dual homed, so this 
should be fine as long as traffic flows both directions, it shouldn’t matter 
what path it takes.  But I’m having to go out to a customer whose kid complains 
he can’t do anything not even websites (but I suspect it comes down to 
something gaming related) yet their Internet connection appears to be 100% from 
all my tests and I see them streaming Netflix for hours at a time at 9-10 Mbps. 
 I am hesitant to send a field tech because I don’t know what to tell him to do.

 

I’m just inquiring about the asymmetric routing  because I’m grasping at straws 
for what to look for when I’m on site.

 

Did I mention I hate the divorced parent situation where the dad gets the kid X 
days a week and every other weekend, and all the kid does is play online games 
and bitch that the Internet isn’t as good as at the other parent’s house?  But 
in this case he’s claiming it just flat out doesn’t work, and the dad doesn’t 
know anything.

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