For a few years we have been running Device -- Surge -- Netonix.  This year
it has suddenly bit us hard.  We are removing all SS on netonix till we can
add poe fuses.

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 1:45 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> If you use shielded cable, it offers RF shielding without being grounded.
> If you ground one end it offers RF and electrostatic shielding (good for
> mic cables etc).  If you ground both ends it offers RF, electrostatic and
> magnetic shielding (cancels out power line interference).
>
> But grounding the shield also can set up a ground loop which can cause
> problems.
>
> Surge suppressors don’t use the shield to do what they do.  They do have
> (mine anyhow) has shielded jacks so that if you use shielded plugs the
> shielded will be bonded to the ground lug.
>
> Some folks thinks this is necessary, others don’t even run shielded
> cables.
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2019 11:36 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again
>
>
> If we skip the SS, Would grounding the shielded cat5 de needed?
>
>
>
> *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Date: *Friday, September 27, 2019 at 1:24 PM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again
>
>
>
> I would never use any kind of surge suppressor on a Netonix product that
> is making POE.
>
> It is the POE that blows.
>
>
>
> But that is why I made the POE fuse products.  We sell a small quantity
> each month.  Zero feedback as to whether they are doing the job.
>
> We have had people claim the fuse was defective when in fact they blew
> it.  It is not a circuit breaker nor is it a poly fuse.  It is an old
> fashioned one time use fuse for each of the 4 circuits on an ethernet
> cable.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2019 11:10 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again
>
>
>
> So Chuck, whats your take?
>
>
>
> No SS if no fuse available?
>
>
>
> *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:47 PM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Grounding again
>
>
>
> They are wonderful switches.  And they will fix blown ports for $20.  I am
> surprised they have not adopted Forrest’s method of avoiding this issue.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I dont understand how netonix has such widespread use with the constand
> issues i read about. are they just that cheap? low heat production? what is
> it?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:51 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
> We switched to packetflux rack injectors and planet switches because the
> netonix had such a high failure rate.
>
>
>
> Knock on wood it’s been a rock solid solution.
>
>
>
> But if you are using the netonix you need both the fuse card and grounding
> card from mcowentech.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:45 AM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
> wrote:
>
> So we have had lots of issues with blow radios recently during storms.
>
>
>
> I do know that we are possibly causing them because we are using McCowns
> SS with Netonix switches.
>
>
>
> So our long term plant is to fuse them, but in the meantime, should we
> connect the radios directly to the Netonix switches?
>
>
>
> Should we ground the shielded cable shield or would the grounding of the
> radio would suffice?
>
>
>
>
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