Shade helps a lot too.

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:17 AM castarritt . <castarr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All of our DDB boxes have the brushed metal finish.  I painted one of them
> with some white elastomeric roof coating stuff from Lowes that is meant to
> reflect solar energy, and the peak internal temp only went down ~5°F.  We
> have a lot of gear in that box, so I think an application with a larger
> ratio of solar gain to internal heat generation would benefit more.  After
> the paint failed to solve the problem, I replaced the 110cfm fans with a
> pair of 48vdc 250+cfm fans, and the temp went down 20°F; it does make a lot
> more noise though.
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 6:31 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> The difference between standard machine grey and just bright white spray
>> paint from the hardware store is dramatic.  I suspect everything beyond
>> that is incremental.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also back around 2005 when I ordered my first outdoor cabinet from DDB, I
>> thought I wanted unpainted metal aluminum since all the traffic control
>> boxes I see are plain metal or stainless steel.  The salesperson said I
>> absolutely didn’t want plain metal because it would get hot in the sun and
>> what I wanted was the cream color.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:19 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar load
>>
>>
>>
>> If you look up insulating paint on Wikipedia, the entry there says all
>> ceramic heat-reflective coatings are snake oil.
>>
>> I did find a good discussion on Scientific American (
>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/benefits-of-insulating-paint/).
>> They don't exactly describe it as snake oil, but they also suggest that you
>> not get your hopes up.
>>
>> I suspect you can get your best results with a coat of reflective white
>> paint, and try to keep it clean.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/2019 1:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> Be interesting to do a bake off between this and the plain “satellite
>> white” I use.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have always found it interesting that highly reflective things like
>> polished aluminum, chrome and silver paint seem to be really bad at
>> reflecting heat/sun.  But we have all grabbed a chrome wrench that has been
>> left in the hot summer sun and realized hot much it absorbs.  I am guessing
>> what we see as reflective, Infra Red sees as flat black.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2019 1:46 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar load
>>
>>
>>
>> Which reminds me of this material that a friend clued me in on.
>>
>> You can get this at Home Depot (for example). It is pricey; around $250
>> per 5 gallon bucket, AND it needs a top coat of another material at near
>> the same price. However, for an advertised reduction in temperature of over
>> 60 degrees F, it may be worth a look.
>>
>> https://superiorcoatingsolutions.com/super-therm/
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/2019 12:35 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> I remember Chuck doing a study on this same subject so I thought there
>> might be some interest.
>>
>> Cabinet heat load
>> <https://www.ddbunlimited.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Solar-Load-on-DDB-Enclosures.pdf>
>>
>>
>>
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