So what is the performance of a shade of some color vs painting.   For small boxes, a shade would seem to be the best solution?

On 8/15/19 5:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
It improves memory in children.

We have a shed in the backyard with a metal roof. Plain gray. Nothing fancy. I used my laser thermometer on the inside early this afternoon. The OAT was 91F. The inside temp of just the roof was 152F.

I should have brought bacon, eggs, and a frying pan.
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 5:03 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

    OK, is that why they paint the tops of school buses white?  I've
    always wondered about that.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
    Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:55 PM
    To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar load

    Why most smart airplane owners want at least the top to be white!

    On 08/15/2019 04:40 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
    > Burt Rutan did a study of his own back around 1985 or so, as his
    > fiberglass creations were all sensitive to heat (room
    > temperature-cured epoxy/fiberglass). There is no question that
    pure,
    > unadulterated white is the best "color" to prevent thermal gain
    from
    > direct sun. All other colors, cream, light yellow, even mirror
    > experienced significant gains above just plain white.
    >
    > bp
    > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >
    > On 8/15/2019 4:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
    >>
    >> The difference between standard machine grey and just bright white
    >> spray paint from the hardware store is dramatic.  I suspect
    >> everything beyond that is incremental.
    >>
    >> Also back around 2005 when I ordered my first outdoor cabinet from
    >> DDB, I thought I wanted unpainted metal aluminum since all the
    >> traffic control boxes I see are plain metal or stainless
    steel.  The
    >> salesperson said I absolutely didn’t want plain metal because it
    >> would get hot in the sun and what I wanted was the cream color.
    >>
    >> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
    >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:19 PM
    >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar load
    >>
    >> If you look up insulating paint on Wikipedia, the entry there says
    >> all ceramic heat-reflective coatings are snake oil.
    >>
    >> I did find a good discussion on Scientific American
    >>
    (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/benefits-of-insulating-paint/).
    >> They don't exactly describe it as snake oil, but they also suggest
    >> that you not get your hopes up.
    >>
    >> I suspect you can get your best results with a coat of reflective
    >> white paint, and try to keep it clean.
    >>
    >> bp
    >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >>
    >> On 8/15/2019 1:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
    >>
    >>     Be interesting to do a bake off between this and the plain
    >>     “satellite white” I use.
    >>
    >>     I have always found it interesting that highly reflective
    things
    >>     like polished aluminum, chrome and silver paint seem to be
    really
    >>     bad at reflecting heat/sun.  But we have all grabbed a chrome
    >>     wrench that has been left in the hot summer sun and
    realized hot
    >>     much it absorbs.  I am guessing what we see as reflective,
    Infra
    >>     Red sees as flat black.
    >>
    >>     *From:*Bill Prince
    >>
    >>     *Sent:*Thursday, August 15, 2019 1:46 PM
    >>
    >>     *To:*af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    >>
    >>     *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Solar load
    >>
    >>     Which reminds me of this material that a friend clued me in on.
    >>
    >>     You can get this at Home Depot (for example). It is pricey;
    around
    >>     $250 per 5 gallon bucket, AND it needs a top coat of another
    >>     material at near the same price. However, for an advertised
    >>     reduction in temperature of over 60 degrees F, it may be
    worth a look.
    >>
    >> https://superiorcoatingsolutions.com/super-therm/
    >>
    >>     bp
    >>
    >>     <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >>
    >>     On 8/15/2019 12:35 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
    >>
    >>         I remember Chuck doing a study on this same subject so I
    >>         thought there might be some interest.
    >>
    >>         Cabinet heat load
    >>
    >>
    <https://www.ddbunlimited.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Solar-Load-o
    >> n-DDB-Enclosures.pdf>
    >>
    >>         --
    >>
    >>         Lewis Bergman
    >>
    >>         325-439-0533 Cell
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >> ---
    >>
    >>     --
    >>     AF mailing list
    >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>>
    >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

    --
    AF mailing list
    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com



-- AF mailing list
    AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com>
    http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com



-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Reply via email to