Is that like betamax?

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2019 12:25 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - 16mm home movie transfer

Look into m-disc media 


On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 8:46 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

  Yeah, I’m thinking when in doubt, do both.  Although I’m not sure I agree 
that digital storage (USB stick, hard drive, cloud storage, …) will last longer 
than an optical disk, which seems pretty archival to me.





  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:12 PM
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  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - 16mm home movie transfer



  Why not put it on digital, that way youre not dealing with medium death? 
Archive online in whatever resolution you want. 



  On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 6:10 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Certainly BluRay is more current, but I would expect original DVD format to 
last longer just from the size of the bits. I don't know for certain, but I've 
heard a couple of different theories about how long the original CD format 
would last; anywhere from a decade (I have some that are way older than that, 
all the way up to a century. Time will tell (pun intended).




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    On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 3:51 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

      There’s a local place here in Naperville Memory Keepers that says they do 
the work in house.  Some resources on the Internet seem to say 1080p is 
required to capture all the detail from 16mm film, I’m just not sure that’s 
true.  Also not sure if I want .mov format on a hard disk, it seems more 
flexible, but just getting a playable BluRay and maybe a couple for family 
seems easier.



      I haven’t seen these movies for decades, my dad used to periodically rent 
a projector.  I can’t believe the old cars.  Hudsons and DeSotos and 
Studebakers.



      From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
      Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 3:24 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - 16mm home movie transfer



      There used to be a place in Cupertino CA (IIRC) that did all kinds of 
transfers of photos, movies, audio recordings, etc. Don't know if they still 
exist or not. Peterson's Video Transfer.



      Did a quick google search, and it appears they may be some sort of 
franchise or something. They are also in Las Vegas now...




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      On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 12:55 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

        Maybe someone on this list knows the answer to my questions.  I have 
recently come into possession of 16 mm home movies my dad made mostly in the 
1950’s.  Some color, most B&W.  Even on a 16mm projector,  the quality is 
probably worse than what you can do with any smartphone today.



        At some point someone had them professionally transferred to a VHS 
tape, as a result the original 50 ft reels have been spliced and respooled onto 
7 inch reels holding 400 feet each.  I found a VHS player in the attic and 
viewed the tape, the quality is nothing to write home about, not sure how much 
is the quality of the original and how much is the limitations of VHS.  In any 
case, I feel VHS tape is too fragile and does not lend itself to sharing copies 
with  relatives, plus who has a VHS player anymore?  So I am  looking at having 
a new frame-by-frame transfer done to either DVD or BluRay.  Cost looks to be 
around $80 per 400 ft reel (20 cents per foot).



        Is this likely to result in better quality than the analog-to-analog 
transfer that was done to VHS?



        Is there any advantage to Blu-Ray over DVD?  I’m not sure the 
difference between 1080p and 720p will matter given the source material.



        And which is best, a regular DVD or BluRay format, or an editable .mov 
format that will need to be modified to play in most DVD or BluRay players?  
I’m not thinking I am going to be editing this and inserting chapter titles or 
captions or commentary, but never say never.  Right now I’m leaning toward 
something I can just pop in a player and watch.

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