If you wanna go full permanence, get it laser etched in a crystal

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 10:28 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Optical disk is a flat piece of material with dents, that dont want to be
> there
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> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 9:46 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
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>> Yeah, I’m thinking when in doubt, do both.  Although I’m not sure I agree
>> that digital storage (USB stick, hard drive, cloud storage, …) will last
>> longer than an optical disk, which seems pretty archival to me.
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:12 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - 16mm home movie transfer
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>> Why not put it on digital, that way youre not dealing with medium death?
>> Archive online in whatever resolution you want.
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>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 6:10 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Certainly BluRay is more current, but I would expect original DVD format
>> to last longer just from the size of the bits. I don't know for certain,
>> but I've heard a couple of different theories about how long the original
>> CD format would last; anywhere from a decade (I have some that are way
>> older than that, all the way up to a century. Time will tell (pun intended).
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>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 3:51 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
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>> There’s a local place here in Naperville Memory Keepers that says they do
>> the work in house.  Some resources on the Internet seem to say 1080p is
>> required to capture all the detail from 16mm film, I’m just not sure that’s
>> true.  Also not sure if I want .mov format on a hard disk, it seems more
>> flexible, but just getting a playable BluRay and maybe a couple for family
>> seems easier.
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>> I haven’t seen these movies for decades, my dad used to periodically rent
>> a projector.  I can’t believe the old cars.  Hudsons and DeSotos and
>> Studebakers.
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2019 3:24 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - 16mm home movie transfer
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>> There used to be a place in Cupertino CA (IIRC) that did all kinds of
>> transfers of photos, movies, audio recordings, etc. Don't know if they
>> still exist or not. Peterson's Video Transfer.
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>> Did a quick google search, and it appears they may be some sort of
>> franchise or something. They are also in Las Vegas now...
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>> bp
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>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 12:55 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
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>> Maybe someone on this list knows the answer to my questions.  I have
>> recently come into possession of 16 mm home movies my dad made mostly in
>> the 1950’s.  Some color, most B&W.  Even on a 16mm projector,  the quality
>> is probably worse than what you can do with any smartphone today.
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>> At some point someone had them professionally transferred to a VHS tape,
>> as a result the original 50 ft reels have been spliced and respooled onto 7
>> inch reels holding 400 feet each.  I found a VHS player in the attic and
>> viewed the tape, the quality is nothing to write home about, not sure how
>> much is the quality of the original and how much is the limitations of
>> VHS.  In any case, I feel VHS tape is too fragile and does not lend itself
>> to sharing copies with  relatives, plus who has a VHS player anymore?  So I
>> am  looking at having a new frame-by-frame transfer done to either DVD or
>> BluRay.  Cost looks to be around $80 per 400 ft reel (20 cents per foot).
>>
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>> Is this likely to result in better quality than the analog-to-analog
>> transfer that was done to VHS?
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>> Is there any advantage to Blu-Ray over DVD?  I’m not sure the difference
>> between 1080p and 720p will matter given the source material.
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>> And which is best, a regular DVD or BluRay format, or an editable .mov
>> format that will need to be modified to play in most DVD or BluRay
>> players?  I’m not thinking I am going to be editing this and inserting
>> chapter titles or captions or commentary, but never say never.  Right now
>> I’m leaning toward something I can just pop in a player and watch.
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