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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 6:05 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Most vendors aren't afraid of VMs. The ones that are, you either fake it
> or dump them. No need to financially reward stupid people.
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> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 24, 2019 3:23:00 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Kvm switch
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> There are very good reasons why customers don't it can't virtualize.
> The big one is that the vendor they use won't support it. You can flail at
> that windmill on why they won't, but in the end most customers won't go
> against a vendor recommendation.
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 12:35 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> I'd probably just walk away. There's no reason they can't virtualize,
>> they're just a stick in the mud and not worth the hassle.
>>
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>> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:31:44 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Kvm switch
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>>
>> Client doesn't want to visualize any if it (and largely can't).  Is a
>> bank with multiple vendors supporting multiple platforms
>>
>> Sent from my smartphone
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>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Kvm switch
>> Date: Wed, Apr 24, 2019 12:25 PM
>>
>> KVM is largely unnecessary anymore. VMs or containers replace most
>> physical machines and DRAC, IP-KVM, etc. replace the need to KVM the hosts.
>>
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>> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:19:48 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Kvm switch
>>
>>
>> Have a location with about 8 different devices.  Most are now usb mouse /
>> keyboard
>>
>> What's best kvm type switch now?
>>
>> Mine at home is all ps/2
>>
>> Sent from my smartphone
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