If this case makes it to a jury, do you think the evidence presented to the jury will include a demonstration of an UBNT radio that was "pwned by skynet"?
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 3:15 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > You can always request a jury trial. Even for the tiniest cases except > small claims court. > > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 1:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > > true, but they're also requesting a jury trial. not sure that would come > into play unless the case were moved up to higher courts? > i guess a lawyer defending could argue a decision made in a prior case > basically saying it were preempted... > > but if that were truly the case, why would anyone be putting license > agreements on anything anymore? > wow, this sure has drummed up some list traffic. lol. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Mike Hammett > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 2:49 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > That's only relevant if the government hasn't already preempted what UBNT > is requiring. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Friday, August 10, 2018 2:46:45 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > > > oh yes they are. the agreement itself tells the user what they can and > can't do. the lawsuit is saying cambium violated that agreement by > changing the code, etc, and even using / reusing some of the same code. > and replacing the copyright with cambium's copyright, lots of little things > adding up. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Mathew Howard > *To:* AFMUG > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 2:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > Unless the radio is old enough that it came with firmware that didn't have > that feature... > > But they're saying that Cambium is specifically instructing people to > accept the agreement, and then violate the terms. They don't appear to be > going after anyone so much for violating the agreement, but rather for > telling other people to violate the agreement. > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 2:34 PM CBB - Jay Fuller < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> they're saying you have to accept the license agreement to access a radio >> to even change software. >> they are right - - unless you use tftp recovery. you don't have to do >> that on a dell computer. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Adam Moffett >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 1:47 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium >> >> Dell isn't harmed when you install Linux on your computer. >> Likewise I don't see how Ubiquiti is harmed when you install Elevate. >> >> Someone has to spell out the difference for me. >> >> >> On 8/10/2018 2:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: >> >> >> so - assuming they are held liable and have to pay damages >> >> how much do ya'll estimate they've made from elevate? >> >> now, don't get me wrong, i have a soft spot for both companies. they've >> both made me a lot of money. >> >> i hate to see them doing this - - but i fully see ubnt's point of view >> too. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Mathew Howard >> *To:* AFMUG >> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 1:37 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium >> >> Cambium is not publicly traded... unless something has changed recently. >> >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:30 PM CBB - Jay Fuller < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> wasn't aware cambium was publically traded? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* [email protected] >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 1:23 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium >>> >>> Or short Cambium.... you never know. >>> >>> >>> MoviePass is selling at 5.1 cents per share right now. >>> Or 20 milli cents in pre split dollars. Millipennys? Money is metric, >>> right? >>> >>> In other words, I bought at 60 cents and it is now at 0.020 cents... >>> >>> *From:* Tyson Burris >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 12:19 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium >>> >>> >>> Looks like its time to short the hell of UBNT stock. I don’t see a >>> lawsuit as a favorable to WISP opinions. Dragging WISPs and Vendors into >>> it is very sticky. >>> >>> Could end up being negative. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Tyson Burris, President* >>> *Internet Communications Inc.* >>> *739 Commerce Dr.* >>> *Franklin, IN 46131* >>> >>> *Daytime #* *317-738-0320 * >>> *Cell/Direct #* *317-412-1540 * >>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: ICI] >>> >>> *What can ICI do for you?* >>> >>> >>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - >>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* >>> >>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* >>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is* >>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. 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