Gino, We already use some MXs.  Trying to avoid the cost and power
requirements to upgrade all our M7i routers to MX routers.  Were you saying
I should look at doing a ring on MX or to keep it all routed on MX?  If the
former, why not just do it on EX switches?  The issue with MX for me is
primarily the routed 10G port cost.


Harold, Trill is interesting.  What switches support it?  Might look at it
for smaller networks off my core ring.


The management question is something that always needs to be considered,
but at least with Siklu, it is pretty easy to just run that out of band.
We generally do that anyway.  Can't really test the alternate path without
falling over to it, but can monitor/graph the link performance.  Thoughts
on all local management vs running a few management VLANs on the ring with
a few VRRP/HSRP management routers.


The real question for me is G.8032v2 vs ERPS (As Calix refers to it in
their docs) on Calix gear.  I'm not sure if ERPS on Calix is G.8032v1 or
some proprietary version of that.  Their docs show G.8032.v2 as being
released for multi-vendor compatibility which would indicate to me that
their non v2 ERPS config isn't multi-vendor compatible.  I think I've
settled on trying G.8032v2 on Calix in the lab to shake out any issues.
Being able to bring it up with mostly 10G links and a 1G link is an easier
sell and the ability to add an MX into the ring could be quite useful down
the road.



On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Ok. That was pretty bad. It's the Lewis translator still active?
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 3:43 PM Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Aren’t the Trill switches limited to 1Gbps so far?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 4, 2018 12:59 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] G.8032v2 or ERPS ring with 10G wireless links
>>
>>
>>
>> Trill! 😀
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:50 AM Carl Peterson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> After moving most of our network over to VPLS, I'm working on pushing 10G
>> further into the network.  It doesn't make a lot of sense to do this with
>> routers (cost & power) and since we use a lot of Calix gear for our GPON
>> and already have some of it in place it makes sense to me to just set up a
>> 10G ring and hang routers off of that where we need them.  A couple of the
>> legs are going to be wireless 10G links for now so I'm looking for feedback
>> on G.8032v2 vs ERPS rings with wireless paths.
>>
>>
>>
>> Going to be running ~20-30 Service VLANs with multiple CVLANS and 20-30
>> other single tagged VLANs over the ring (router to router, dedicated links,
>> etc).  The only drawback I see is the inability to do traffic engineering
>> the way we an with MPLS VPLS but I'll still have that with the transport to
>> the core ring.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any gotchas I should look for?  Issues with wireless?  benefits of one vs
>> the other?
>>
>>
>>
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