Hi Shane,

The v200909 TargetingIdeaService encapsulates the functionalty of the
v13 KeywordToolService and SiteSuggestionService.  However, this
service doesn't provide estimated data, including CPC, position, etc.
A separate service will exist for that information, similar to the v13
TrafficEstimatorService, but it isn't yet available.

Best,
- Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team

On Jan 22, 12:35 pm, Shane <conan.the.bl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Thanks for reply.  Follow up question...is there a service in either
> the v13 or v2009 APIs that can return similar Position and CPC results
> to what is found using the Keyword Tool?
>
> Shane
>
> On Jan 22, 8:18 am, AdWords API Advisor <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Shane,
>
> > I think the primary reason for this discrepancy is that you are
> > comparing data from two different types of sources.  If you are using
> > the TrafficEstimatorService then you should use the Traffic Estimator
> > web interface:
>
> >  https://adwords.google.com/select/TrafficEstimatorSandbox
>
> > In my testing this delivers results that closely align with the web
> > service.
>
> > Best,
> > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > On Jan 20, 8:39 pm, Shane <conan.the.bl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > We're using the v13 TrafficEstimatorService to retrieve CPC and
> > > position data for a set of keywords but the data returned is not
> > > matching what we get from the Google Keyword Tool.
>
> > > This post (http://adwordsapi.blogspot.com/2008/07/traffic-estimator-
> > > service-explained.html) explained that the  estimateKeywordList() call
> > > by default uses English as the target language and 'All countries and
> > > territories' as the location target so we're assuming that if we
> > > change the settings on the Keyword Tool (https://adwords.google.com/
> > > select/KeywordToolExternal?defaultView=2) to match then we should be
> > > getting similar results.
>
> > > For both the api and the keyword tool we used the following settings:
> > > Target language:  English
> > > Target location: All Countries and Territories
> > > Keywords:
> > > chess download program
> > > chess program download
> > > download program chess
> > > download chess program
> > > program chess download
> > > program download chess
> > > Max CPC:  $0.15 USD
> > > Match Type:  Phrase
>
> > > Results:
> > > Keyword                                 Pos (KT)        CPC (KT)        
> > > Pos (API)       CPC (API)
> > > chess program download          1-3             $0.11           1-3       
> > >       0.12-0.15
> > > download chess program          1-3             $0.11           4-6       
> > >       0.00-0.15
> > > download chess programs         1-3             $0.05           1-3       
> > >       0 - 0
> > > chess program downloads         1-3             $0.05           1-3       
> > >       0 - 0
> > > chess download program          1-3             $0.11           1-3       
> > >       0 - 0
> > > download program chess          1-3             $0.11           1-3       
> > >       0 - 0
> > > program chess download          1-3             $0.11           1-3       
> > >       0 - 0
> > > program download chess          1-3             $0.11           1-3       
> > >       0 - 0
>
> > > I thought it might be a code error so I reran the keywords using the
> > > script Noel used here (http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-api/
> > > browse_thread/thread/5974a71693aa6f2d/4aa9b2a8d9084661) but I came out
> > > with the same numbers.
>
> > > Any thoughts on whether we're misinterpreting how to simulate the
> > > results of the Keyword Tool or if this is another example of the issue
> > > demonstrated in the ticket above?

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