Del .... Great news !
Thanks Robert -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Del Hoobler Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 9:37 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage pools For those that want to move existing data into the new directory-container storage pools, and don't want to use node replication, you will need to wait until 1H16. That is when we are targeting "move in" for the new directory-container storage pools. Del ---------------------------------------------------- "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 10/07/2015 10:39:21 AM: > From: "Ryder, Michael S" <michael_s.ry...@roche.com> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: 10/07/2015 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage pools Sent by: > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> > > Hello Deirdre -- > > Can you comment on when we might see a better way to migrate existing > storagepools into directory-container storagepools? Perhaps an adjustment > of "move data" or a new command, that doesn't require multiple steps > hopping through a replication server? It sounds like this is a needed > feature that some of us can't get to without this functionality. > > Best regards, > > Mike <http://rbbuswiki.bbg.roche.com/wiki/ryderm_page:start>, x7942 > RMD IT Client Services <http://rmsit.dia.roche.com/Pages/default.aspx> > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Erwann SIMON <erwann.si...@free.fr> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > As previously said by Deirdre, see the FAQ : > > > > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home?lang=en#!/ > wiki/Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager/page/Directory-container%20storage% > 20pools%20FAQs > > > > -- > > Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي Erwann SIMON > > > > ----- Mail original ----- > > De: "Robert Ouzen" <rou...@univ.haifa.ac.il> > > À: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Envoyé: Mardi 6 Octobre 2015 11:47:12 > > Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage pools > > > > Hi to all > > > > Today in my V7.1.3 test environment , tried to move data from old > > stg fashion (file) to directory container storage without any success > > Tried with commands: move nodedata and move data > > > > Here output > > > > tsm: TSMTEST>move nodedata test from=tsmstg1 to=stg_dir ANR3385E > > MOVE NODEDATA: The operation is not allowed for container storage > > pools. > > > > tsm: TSMTEST>move data C:\MOUNTPOINTS\STORAGE_1\STG1\00000267.BFS > > stg=stg_dir > > ANR3385E MOVE DATA: The operation is not allowed for container > > storage pools. > > > > I tried too , to do a nextstg > > TSMTEST>upd stg tsmstg1 nextstg=stg_dir > > ANR2399E UPDATE STGPOOL: Storage pool STG_DIR is not a sequential pool. > > > > I of course define stg with stgtype=directory (stg_dir) and after it > > define stgpooldirectory > > > > Anybody know a way to move old stg to new stg with stgtype=directory ???? > > > > Regards > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On > > Behalf Of > > Stefan Folkerts > > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:49 AM > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage > > pools > > > > I believe you can "move data" data into the container pools, you > > just can't get the data out with traditional methods at the moment > > but only via > > TSM node replication. > > I like the new pool type but they are only suitable to a specific > > type of > > setup, the good news is that this setup covers a lot of the new type of TSM > > deployments we are doing! > > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Sergio O. Fuentes > > <sfuen...@umd.edu> > > wrote: > > > > > This question is relevant. How do I move from a file devclass stgpool > > > to a directory-container pool. And what's the impact on the DB if > > > I do > > this? > > > I already had multi-site configured for our environment with the > > > tools that exist in versions <7.1.3. I'm not getting another > > > 200TB array to move data to new directory-container pools. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > SF > > > > > > On 9/16/15, 10:49 AM, "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Ryder, > > > Michael S" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU on behalf of michael_s.ry...@roche.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > >I am very interested in directory-container storage pools. > > > > > > > >But... > > > > > > > >If Migration or Move Data are not options, then how does one > > > >transition data from existing primary storage pools to a > > > >directory-container storage pool? > > > > > > > >Mike > > > > > > > >Best regards, > > > > > > > >Mike <http://rbbuswiki.bbg.roche.com/wiki/ryderm_page:start>, > > > >x7942 RMD IT Client Services > > > ><http://rmsit.dia.roche.com/Pages/default.aspx> > > > > > > > >On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Rick Adamson > > > ><rickadam...@segrocers.com> > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >> I may be wrong but from reading the 7.1.3 doco new container > > > >> approach combined with the inline dedup eliminate the need for some > > > >> of these processes. Also, where traditionally a "copy" storage pool > > > >> was used they now refer to it as a "protect" storage pool which has > > > >> the ability to be replicated to another "onsite" or "offsite" > > container storage pool. > > > >> > > > >> Remember that with deduplicated data many of the processes you > > > >>mentioned required that the data be rehydrated to be performed. An > > > >>added benefit is if in fact these processes are no longer required > > > >>it will free up system resources and as a result lower storage > > > >>costs and increase scalability. > > > >> > > > >> Fortunately, there are some good resources for additional information: > > > >> IBM you tube channel: > > > >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGkjRNkO0AQNyQbWhS1tTzw > > > >> IBM knowledge center for 7.1.3: > > > >> > > > >> > > > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGSG7_7.1.3/tsm/welcome > > > .ht > > > >>ml > > > >> > > > >> I will be installing it on two systems today to begin testing, > > > >> hopefully I'll be able to comment more soon...... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -Rick Adamson > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On > > > >> Behalf > > > Of > > > >> James Thorne > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:41 AM > > > >> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > > >> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage > > > >> pools > > > >> > > > >> Hi Karel. > > > >> > > > >> That's the conclusion we came to too. > > > >> > > > >> James. > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On > > > >> Behalf > > > Of > > > >> Karel Bos > > > >> Sent: 16 September 2015 10:17 > > > >> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > > >> Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage > > > >> pools > > > >> > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> So we get a new type of storage pools, the directory-container > > > >> storage pools. These enable TSM to do in flight dedup. But you > > > >> cannot use any of the following functions with directory-container > > storage pools: > > > >> > > > >> - Migration > > > >> - Reclamation > > > >> - Aggregation > > > >> - Collocation > > > >> - Simultaneous-write > > > >> - Storage pool backup > > > >> - Virtual volumes > > > >> > > > >> So having in flight dedupe removes any way of doing bck stg > > > >>other than use node replication to get the data in a second place. Pretty > > > >>bad limitation in my opinion or am I missing something? > > > >> > > > >> Kind regards, > > > >> > > > >> Karel > > > >> > > > > > >
