Hi Mike! On the TSM Symposium in Dresden last month IBM stated that the MOVE DATA option to a container pool is a high priority for IBM and it's a candidate for the first half of 2016. If it's a priority for you, you should tell your IBM contact. If more people find this important, it will get a higher priority. Kind regards, Eric van Loon AF/KLM Storage Engineering
-----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Ryder, Michael S Sent: woensdag 7 oktober 2015 16:39 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage pools Hello Deirdre -- Can you comment on when we might see a better way to migrate existing storagepools into directory-container storagepools? Perhaps an adjustment of "move data" or a new command, that doesn't require multiple steps hopping through a replication server? It sounds like this is a needed feature that some of us can't get to without this functionality. Best regards, Mike <http://rbbuswiki.bbg.roche.com/wiki/ryderm_page:start>, x7942 RMD IT Client Services <http://rmsit.dia.roche.com/Pages/default.aspx> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Erwann SIMON <erwann.si...@free.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > As previously said by Deirdre, see the FAQ : > > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home?lang=en#!/wiki > /Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager/page/Directory-container%20storage%20pools > %20FAQs > > -- > Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي Erwann SIMON > > ----- Mail original ----- > De: "Robert Ouzen" <rou...@univ.haifa.ac.il> > À: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Envoyé: Mardi 6 Octobre 2015 11:47:12 > Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage pools > > Hi to all > > Today in my V7.1.3 test environment , tried to move data from old stg > fashion (file) to directory container storage without any success > Tried with commands: move nodedata and move data > > Here output > > tsm: TSMTEST>move nodedata test from=tsmstg1 to=stg_dir ANR3385E MOVE > NODEDATA: The operation is not allowed for container storage pools. > > tsm: TSMTEST>move data C:\MOUNTPOINTS\STORAGE_1\STG1\00000267.BFS > stg=stg_dir > ANR3385E MOVE DATA: The operation is not allowed for container storage > pools. > > I tried too , to do a nextstg > TSMTEST>upd stg tsmstg1 nextstg=stg_dir > ANR2399E UPDATE STGPOOL: Storage pool STG_DIR is not a sequential pool. > > I of course define stg with stgtype=directory (stg_dir) and after it > define stgpooldirectory > > Anybody know a way to move old stg to new stg with stgtype=directory ???? > > Regards > > Robert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf > Of Stefan Folkerts > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:49 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage pools > > I believe you can "move data" data into the container pools, you just > can't get the data out with traditional methods at the moment but only > via TSM node replication. > I like the new pool type but they are only suitable to a specific type > of setup, the good news is that this setup covers a lot of the new > type of TSM deployments we are doing! > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Sergio O. Fuentes <sfuen...@umd.edu> > wrote: > > > This question is relevant. How do I move from a file devclass > > stgpool to a directory-container pool. And what's the impact on the > > DB if I do > this? > > I already had multi-site configured for our environment with the > > tools that exist in versions <7.1.3. I'm not getting another 200TB > > array to move data to new directory-container pools. > > > > Thanks! > > > > SF > > > > On 9/16/15, 10:49 AM, "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Ryder, > > Michael S" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU on behalf of > > michael_s.ry...@roche.com> > wrote: > > > > >I am very interested in directory-container storage pools. > > > > > >But... > > > > > >If Migration or Move Data are not options, then how does one > > >transition data from existing primary storage pools to a > > >directory-container storage pool? > > > > > >Mike > > > > > >Best regards, > > > > > >Mike <http://rbbuswiki.bbg.roche.com/wiki/ryderm_page:start>, x7942 > > >RMD IT Client Services > > ><http://rmsit.dia.roche.com/Pages/default.aspx> > > > > > >On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Rick Adamson > > ><rickadam...@segrocers.com> > > >wrote: > > > > > >> I may be wrong but from reading the 7.1.3 doco new container > > >> approach combined with the inline dedup eliminate the need for > > >> some of these processes. Also, where traditionally a "copy" > > >> storage pool was used they now refer to it as a "protect" storage > > >> pool which has the ability to be replicated to another "onsite" or > > >> "offsite" > container storage pool. > > >> > > >> Remember that with deduplicated data many of the processes you > > >>mentioned required that the data be rehydrated to be performed. > > >>An added benefit is if in fact these processes are no longer > > >>required it will free up system resources and as a result lower > > >>storage costs and increase scalability. > > >> > > >> Fortunately, there are some good resources for additional information: > > >> IBM you tube channel: > > >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGkjRNkO0AQNyQbWhS1tTzw > > >> IBM knowledge center for 7.1.3: > > >> > > >> > > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGSG7_7.1.3/tsm/welco > > me > > .ht > > >>ml > > >> > > >> I will be installing it on two systems today to begin testing, > > >> hopefully I'll be able to comment more soon...... > > >> > > >> > > >> -Rick Adamson > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On > > >> Behalf > > Of > > >> James Thorne > > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:41 AM > > >> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > >> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage > > >> pools > > >> > > >> Hi Karel. > > >> > > >> That's the conclusion we came to too. > > >> > > >> James. > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On > > >> Behalf > > Of > > >> Karel Bos > > >> Sent: 16 September 2015 10:17 > > >> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > >> Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM 7.1.3 and Directory-container storage pools > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> So we get a new type of storage pools, the directory-container > > >> storage pools. These enable TSM to do in flight dedup. But you > > >> cannot use any of the following functions with > > >> directory-container > storage pools: > > >> > > >> - Migration > > >> - Reclamation > > >> - Aggregation > > >> - Collocation > > >> - Simultaneous-write > > >> - Storage pool backup > > >> - Virtual volumes > > >> > > >> So having in flight dedupe removes any way of doing bck stg other > > >>than use node replication to get the data in a second place. > > >>Pretty bad limitation in my opinion or am I missing something? > > >> > > >> Kind regards, > > >> > > >> Karel > > >> > > > ******************************************************** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. 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