That's Brilliant!!! On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Leandro Mazur <leandroma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> In here, we use something like this: > > Exclude * > Exclude *:\...\* > Include C:\test\...\* > Exclude.dir C:\[a-s]* > Exclude.dir C:\[u-z]* > > Tha way, we exclude from processing the other unwanted directories of the > drive C: > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:58 AM, lindsay morris <lind...@tsmworks.com > >wrote: > > > Wanda your two cents is worth at least a dime! > > > > I never knew you could use a MINUS sign in the DOMAIN statement to > > EXCLUDE a drive/filespace. > > Perfect, easy solution for all those "bad=practice" customers who've > > done this! > > I hope they lurk here, read this and make the change. > > > > Thank you! > > > > ------ > > Mr. Lindsay Morris > > Principal > > www.tsmworks.com > > 919-403-8260 > > lind...@tsmworks.com > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 2009, at Jul 24, 8:34 AM, Wanda Prather wrote: > > > > Here's adding my 2c to the confusion: > >> > >> I agree with Lindsay; setting > >> DOMAIN D: > >> is dangerous, because that way all you get is D:, and if someone > >> adds an E: > >> drive later, it will be skipped. > >> > >> So I recommend using Bill's notation: > >> > >> Domain ALL-LOCAL -C: > >> or > >> Domain ALL-LOCAL > >> Domain -C: > >> > >> Domain statements are additive; so if you specify all-local minus > >> C:, if > >> someone adds an E: drive later it will be correctly picked up. > >> > >> However, the original poster wanted to back up a subdirectory on C: > >> If you exclude C: with a Domain statement, or with exclude.dir, you > >> can't > >> back up a subdirectory, because TSM will never traverse the C: drive > >> at all. > >> > >> The only way to backup a subdirectory in C: without backing up all > >> of C: is > >> > >> exclude c:\...\* > >> include c:\...\subdir\...\* > >> > >> And that is going to give you a backup of all the files in subdir, > >> and any > >> subdirectories of subdir, AND a backup of all the other directory > >> objects on > >> C: as well. No way around that. > >> > >> NOW for my quibble, which is with the use of this notation: > >> INCORRECT: > >> exclude c:\...\*.* > >> > >> The include/exclude statements are doing a pattern match against the > >> long > >> file name. > >> If you use the notation "*.*", the include/exclude statement will > >> NOT match > >> any files that do not have a "." in the name. There aren't a lot, > >> but you > >> will find some files in window with no suffix. I have NEVER seen a > >> case in > >> a real TSM site where the use of this notation was correct, or > >> getting the > >> intended results. > >> > >> The correct notation is c:\...\* > >> > >> the \ ...\ is a wildcard for any number of subdirectories (including 0 > >> subdirectories), and the * is a pattern match for any number of > >> characters, > >> so it always works. > >> > >> Unfortunately the incorrect use of c:\...\*.* persisted in the > >> client manual > >> for a long time, but it was an artifact leftover from prehistoric > >> windows > >> versions, before windows used long file names. And of course, it > >> still > >> persists in web-space (and probably will persist long after we're dead > >> because of that!). But it's still incorrect. > >> > >> W > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:20 AM, lindsay morris > >> <lind...@tsmworks.com>wrote: > >> > >> Well, not to quibble, Bill, but you can use exclude.dir to avoid > >>> getting the C: directories, right? > >>> And the problem of users / admins adding a drive in the future, and > >>> TSM then SILENTLY skipping it due to DOMAIN D:, is real. > >>> > >>> I mean, I've seen this happen, and want to warn against this bad > >>> practice. > >>> Agree? Disagree? > >>> ------ > >>> Mr. Lindsay Morris > >>> Principal > >>> www.tsmworks.com > >>> 919-403-8260 > >>> lind...@tsmworks.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jul 23, 2009, at Jul 23, 10:54 AM, Bill Boyer wrote: > >>> > >>> I prefer to exclude it from the DOMAIN. That way you won't get the > >>> > >>>> directories on the C: drive. This is from the help. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> For example, in the following options Tivoli Storage Manager will > >>>> process all local drives except for the c: drive, systemobject, > >>>> and systemstate domain: > >>>> > >>>> domain ALL-LOCAL -c: -systemobject > >>>> domain ALL-LOCAL -c: -systemstate > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Bill Boyer > >>>> "Life is hard. After all, it kills you." - Katharine Hepburn > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On > >>>> Behalf Of > >>>> lindsay morris > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:27 AM > >>>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > >>>> Subject: Re: Incl/Excl Problem > >>>> > >>>> Well, there's a problem there: > >>>> Our ART product has found several customers that shot themselves in > >>>> the foot by doing this: > >>>> DOMAIN D: > >>>> because they don't want to back up C:, a stock image of windows-and- > >>>> office. > >>>> > >>>> That works fine. But months later, the user adds drive E:, and TSM > >>>> silently skips it. > >>>> > >>>> Better to use exclude of C:, IMHO > >>>> > >>>> ------ > >>>> Mr. Lindsay Morris > >>>> Principal > >>>> www.tsmworks.com > >>>> 919-403-8260 > >>>> lind...@tsmworks.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 23, 2009, at Jul 23, 10:05 AM, km wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Even easier (no OS involvment) would be to use: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> virtualmountpoint c:\dir > >>>>> domain c:\dir > >>>>> > >>>>> in dsm.opt > >>>>> > >>>>> -km > >>>>> > >>>>> On 23/07, Adrian Compton wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Patryk > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I found the best way to selectively backup directories was to > >>>>>> create a > >>>>>> share on the directory, and you can then choose that share as a > >>>>>> domain > >>>>>> to backup in your opt file. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hope this helps > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Adrian Compton > >>>>>> Aspen Pharmacare Port Elizabeth > >>>>>> tel: +2741 4072855 > >>>>>> Fax: +2741 453 7452 > >>>>>> Cell: +27823204495 > >>>>>> Email: acomp...@aspenpharma.com > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of > >>>>>> Patryk Bobak > >>>>>> Sent: 23 July 2009 09:37 AM > >>>>>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > >>>>>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Incl/Excl Problem > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have problem with Incl/Excl list on client. I've searched forum > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> google > >>>>>> but I cant find good solution. I want to backup only one selected > >>>>>> folder > >>>>>> (with subfolders and files) from C:. For example "C:\test\". I > >>>>>> tryed a > >>>>>> lot > >>>>>> of configurations with exclude, exclude.dir and includes, and it > >>>>>> backup > >>>>>> my > >>>>>> whole C: or dont backup anything. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> TSM Client: 6.1 Windows, TSM Server: 5.5.0 z/OS > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Patryk. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > > > -- > __________________________________ > Leandro Mazur >
