Wanda your two cents is worth at least a dime!
I never knew you could use a MINUS sign in the DOMAIN statement to
EXCLUDE a drive/filespace.
Perfect, easy solution for all those "bad=practice" customers who've
done this!
I hope they lurk here, read this and make the change.
Thank you!
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Mr. Lindsay Morris
Principal
www.tsmworks.com
919-403-8260
lind...@tsmworks.com
On Jul 24, 2009, at Jul 24, 8:34 AM, Wanda Prather wrote:
Here's adding my 2c to the confusion:
I agree with Lindsay; setting
DOMAIN D:
is dangerous, because that way all you get is D:, and if someone
adds an E:
drive later, it will be skipped.
So I recommend using Bill's notation:
Domain ALL-LOCAL -C:
or
Domain ALL-LOCAL
Domain -C:
Domain statements are additive; so if you specify all-local minus
C:, if
someone adds an E: drive later it will be correctly picked up.
However, the original poster wanted to back up a subdirectory on C:
If you exclude C: with a Domain statement, or with exclude.dir, you
can't
back up a subdirectory, because TSM will never traverse the C: drive
at all.
The only way to backup a subdirectory in C: without backing up all
of C: is
exclude c:\...\*
include c:\...\subdir\...\*
And that is going to give you a backup of all the files in subdir,
and any
subdirectories of subdir, AND a backup of all the other directory
objects on
C: as well. No way around that.
NOW for my quibble, which is with the use of this notation:
INCORRECT:
exclude c:\...\*.*
The include/exclude statements are doing a pattern match against the
long
file name.
If you use the notation "*.*", the include/exclude statement will
NOT match
any files that do not have a "." in the name. There aren't a lot,
but you
will find some files in window with no suffix. I have NEVER seen a
case in
a real TSM site where the use of this notation was correct, or
getting the
intended results.
The correct notation is c:\...\*
the \ ...\ is a wildcard for any number of subdirectories (including 0
subdirectories), and the * is a pattern match for any number of
characters,
so it always works.
Unfortunately the incorrect use of c:\...\*.* persisted in the
client manual
for a long time, but it was an artifact leftover from prehistoric
windows
versions, before windows used long file names. And of course, it
still
persists in web-space (and probably will persist long after we're dead
because of that!). But it's still incorrect.
W
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:20 AM, lindsay morris
<lind...@tsmworks.com>wrote:
Well, not to quibble, Bill, but you can use exclude.dir to avoid
getting the C: directories, right?
And the problem of users / admins adding a drive in the future, and
TSM then SILENTLY skipping it due to DOMAIN D:, is real.
I mean, I've seen this happen, and want to warn against this bad
practice.
Agree? Disagree?
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Mr. Lindsay Morris
Principal
www.tsmworks.com
919-403-8260
lind...@tsmworks.com
On Jul 23, 2009, at Jul 23, 10:54 AM, Bill Boyer wrote:
I prefer to exclude it from the DOMAIN. That way you won't get the
directories on the C: drive. This is from the help.
For example, in the following options Tivoli Storage Manager will
process all local drives except for the c: drive, systemobject,
and systemstate domain:
domain ALL-LOCAL -c: -systemobject
domain ALL-LOCAL -c: -systemstate
Bill Boyer
"Life is hard. After all, it kills you." - Katharine Hepburn
-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On
Behalf Of
lindsay morris
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:27 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Incl/Excl Problem
Well, there's a problem there:
Our ART product has found several customers that shot themselves in
the foot by doing this:
DOMAIN D:
because they don't want to back up C:, a stock image of windows-and-
office.
That works fine. But months later, the user adds drive E:, and TSM
silently skips it.
Better to use exclude of C:, IMHO
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Mr. Lindsay Morris
Principal
www.tsmworks.com
919-403-8260
lind...@tsmworks.com
On Jul 23, 2009, at Jul 23, 10:05 AM, km wrote:
Even easier (no OS involvment) would be to use:
virtualmountpoint c:\dir
domain c:\dir
in dsm.opt
-km
On 23/07, Adrian Compton wrote:
Hi Patryk
I found the best way to selectively backup directories was to
create a
share on the directory, and you can then choose that share as a
domain
to backup in your opt file.
Hope this helps
Regards
Adrian Compton
Aspen Pharmacare Port Elizabeth
tel: +2741 4072855
Fax: +2741 453 7452
Cell: +27823204495
Email: acomp...@aspenpharma.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On
Behalf Of
Patryk Bobak
Sent: 23 July 2009 09:37 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Incl/Excl Problem
Hi,
I have problem with Incl/Excl list on client. I've searched forum
and
google
but I cant find good solution. I want to backup only one selected
folder
(with subfolders and files) from C:. For example "C:\test\". I
tryed a
lot
of configurations with exclude, exclude.dir and includes, and it
backup
my
whole C: or dont backup anything.
TSM Client: 6.1 Windows, TSM Server: 5.5.0 z/OS
Patryk.
