Hai Andrew & Ralph, and all.
I think i've got the point, maybe i missed something in retention
configuration. Could you help determine how to set the retention? Because
now I manage the retention by the volume usage (rotation).
Basicly i set daily backup-archive to diskpool, then copy (backup stgpool)
to daily_tape_pool, the rotation is 1 week. So after one week, before
backup-archive operation, i set an automated process for deleting volume for
that day.
For Weekly backup, i set it to store on weekly_diskpool, migrate to
weekly_tape_pool.
For monthly backup, it store to monthly_tape_pool.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Regards,
Yudi Darmadi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Raibeck" <stor...@us.ibm.com>
To: <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] Greetings & request for help
Ralph, I think you are on to something.
The way TSM works, if there is more than one management class with the
same highest RETONLY value, then the management class name whose name is
highest in sort order (ascending A -- Z), then that is the one picked for
directories.
When NTFS security attributes are removed from the backup picture, the
directories probably do not appear changed, so no attempt is made to back
them up.
When NTFS security attributes are included for backup, there are probably
one or more directories that appear changed. When TSM tries to back them
up to a pool with no available storage, you get the "out of storage space"
error.
Best regards,
Andy
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 01/07/2009
08:08:09 AM:
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AW: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] Greetings & request for help
Bethke, Ralph
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Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
Dear Yudi,
might not solve your problem but there are a few things which need
to be discussed:
1)
All backup copy groups have exactly the same (default?) retention
settings. Therefore I can not see any reason why you have setup
different management classes.
2)
There is one backup copy group which refers to a non-existing or non
"readwrite" storagepool named WEEKLY_DISK_POOL.
Any backup using that management class will most-likely fail unless
there is a valid and writable "Next Storage Pool" defined for that
primary storage pool
3)
TSM stores directory tree information first as far as I know.
In order to make sure that directory tree metadata information will
be available as long as there is valid backup data, TSM will by
default use the management class with the logest retetion period to
store directory information. In theory if all management classes
have the same retention levels it should store the directory
information with the same management class which is used during a
backup session to store the actual files.
Wonder if it happens in your case that TSM selects the inappropriate
MC for directory information and therefore fails (e.g. tries to
backup that data into the WEEKLY_DISK_POOL).
Please (only for test purpose) add the following line to your
dsm.opt and retry backup:
DIRMC DAILY_MC
This will force TSM to use a specific management class for directory
information.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Best regards
Ralph Bethke
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Auftrag von Yudi Darmadi
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2009 13:06
An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: Re: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] Greetings & request for help
Dear Ralph,
===> Nothing show up on activity log, just session for the
node(client) started, then ended.
========================================================================
THe Client's option file:
commmethod TCPIP
tcpport 1500
NODENAME TEST
MANAGEDSERVICES WEBCLIENT
QUERYSCHEDPERIOD 3
*SCHEDMODE PROMPTED
SCHEDLOGNAME "c:\program files\tivoli\tsm\baclient\dsmsched.log"
SCHEDLOGRETENTION N
*BTPN
TCPSERVERADDRESS xx.xx.xx.xx
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
TCPNODELAY NO
REVOKEREMOTEACCESS ACCESS
RUNASSERVICE YES
SCHEDCMDDISABLED YES
SRVPREPOSTSCHEDDISABLED YES
REPLACE PROMPT
TCPCLIENTADDRESS xx.xxx.xx.xx
SESSIONINITIATION SERVERONLY
SCHEDMODE POLLING
COMMRESTARTDURATION 10
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*"
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.*"
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\EA DATA. SF"
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\IBMBIO.COM"
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\IBMDOS.COM"
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\IO.SYS"
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\config\...\*"
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat"
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dhcp\...\*"
INCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\*"
EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dns\...\*"
INCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\*"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.*"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\EA DATA. SF"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\IBMBIO.COM"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\IBMDOS.COM"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\IO.SYS"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\config\...\*"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dhcp\...\*"
INCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\*"
EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dns\...\*"
INCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\*"
EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\System Volume Information"
EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\...\Temporary Internet Files"
EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\Recycled"
EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\Recycler"
========================================================================
===> Result of the "q copy * active f=d"
Policy Domain Name: BTPN_DOMAIN
Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
Mgmt Class Name: DAILY_MC
Copy Group Name: STANDARD
Copy Group Type: Backup
Versions Data Exists: 2
Versions Data Deleted: 1
Retain Extra Versions: 30
Retain Only Version: 60
Copy Mode: Modified
Copy Serialization: Dynamic
Copy Frequency: 0
Copy Destination: DISKPOOL Table of Contents
(TOC) Destination:
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
Last Update Date/Time: 12/01/2008 15:56:48
Managing profile:
Changes Pending: No
Policy Domain Name: BTPN_DOMAIN
Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
Mgmt Class Name: MONTHLY_MC
Copy Group Name: STANDARD
Copy Group Type: Backup
Versions Data Exists: 2
Versions Data Deleted: 1
Retain Extra Versions: 30
Retain Only Version: 60
Copy Mode: Modified
Copy Serialization: Dynamic
Copy Frequency: 0
Copy Destination: MONTHLY_TAPE_POOL Table of
Contents (TOC) Destination:
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
Last Update Date/Time: 12/01/2008 16:29:56
Managing profile:
Changes Pending: No
Policy Domain Name: BTPN_DOMAIN
Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
Mgmt Class Name: WEEKLY_MC
Copy Group Name: STANDARD
Copy Group Type: Backup
Versions Data Exists: 2
Versions Data Deleted: 1
Retain Extra Versions: 30
Retain Only Version: 60
Copy Mode: Modified
Copy Serialization: Dynamic
Copy Frequency: 0
Copy Destination: WEEKLY_DISK_POOL Table of
Contents (TOC) Destination:
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
Last Update Date/Time: 12/22/2008 20:32:16
Managing profile:
Changes Pending: No
=========================================================================
===> Result of "q copy * active f=d t=a"
Policy Domain Name: BTPN_DOMAIN
Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
Mgmt Class Name: DAILY_MC
Copy Group Name: STANDARD
Copy Group Type: Archive
Retain Version: 365
Retention Initiation: Creation
Retain Minimum Days:
Copy Serialization: Dynamic
Copy Frequency: CMD
Copy Mode: Absolute
Copy Destination: DISKPOOL Last Update by
(administrator): ADMIN
Last Update Date/Time: 12/01/2008 15:57:19
Managing profile:
Changes Pending: No
Policy Domain Name: BTPN_DOMAIN
Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
Mgmt Class Name: MONTHLY_MC
Copy Group Name: STANDARD
Copy Group Type: Archive
Retain Version: 365
Retention Initiation: Creation
Retain Minimum Days:
Copy Serialization: Dynamic
Copy Frequency: CMD
Copy Mode: Absolute
Copy Destination: MONTHLY_TAPE_POOL Last Update by
(administrator): ADMIN
Last Update Date/Time: 12/01/2008 16:30:10
Managing profile:
Changes Pending: No
Policy Domain Name: BTPN_DOMAIN
Policy Set Name: ACTIVE
Mgmt Class Name: WEEKLY_MC
Copy Group Name: STANDARD
Copy Group Type: Archive
Retain Version: 365
Retention Initiation: Creation
Retain Minimum Days:
Copy Serialization: Dynamic
Copy Frequency: CMD
Copy Mode: Absolute
Copy Destination: WEEKLY_DISK_POOL Last Update by
(administrator): ADMIN
Last Update Date/Time: 12/22/2008 20:32:50
Managing profile:
Changes Pending: No
==========================================================================
===> Result of "q mgmt"
Policy Policy Mgmt Default Description
Domain Set Name Class Mgmt
Name Name Class ?
--------- --------- --------- ---------
------------------------
BTPN_DOM- ACTIVE DAILY_MC Yes Daily Management
Class
AIN
BTPN_DOM- ACTIVE MONTHLY_- No Monthly
Management Class
AIN MC
BTPN_DOM- ACTIVE WEEKLY_MC No Weekly
Management Class
AIN
BTPN_DOM- BTPN_PS DAILY_MC Yes Daily Management
Class
AIN
BTPN_DOM- BTPN_PS MONTHLY_- No Monthly
Management Class
AIN MC
BTPN_DOM- BTPN_PS WEEKLY_MC No Weekly
Management Class
AIN
===============================================================================
Thanks a lot, and Best Regards,
Yudi Darmadi
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Indonesia
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Quoting "Bethke, Ralph" <ralph.bet...@mgi.de>:
> Dear Yudi,
>
> is it possible to provide more information like an excerpt of the
> activity log on the TSM server from the failing backup session?
> Please also provide the following information:
>
> dsm.opt file of the client
> Output of "q copy * active f=d"
> Output of "q copy * active f=d t=a"
> Output from "q mgmt"
>
>
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Best regards
>
> Ralph Bethke
>
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