Mark,

Yep. Retention is 30 days. Device type is "Disk", don't use "File" because you have to 
manage the volumes like tape and that takes extra work. i've never had a problem with 
fragmentation, i suppose it's possible if you make your disk volumes very small, my 
disk volumes are 200Gb each and my backuppool Pct Util has run in the high 90's with 
no problems. 

Has far as keeping my storage small is where i really have to get creative. First, all 
clients compress data (don't turn on "compress always" because already compressed 
files will grow), that way files are stored compressed on the disk pools. Second and 
most important use global excludes so you don't backup any thing you don't need. One 
of the biggest saving was not backing up indexes for Groupwise Databases, all 
groupwise admin's know if they restore a DB they have to reindex, the indexes take up 
much more space than the DB's themselves. i also exclude temp files and 
subdirectories, recycle directories, and salvage directories on NetWare Servers. If it 
wasn't for my creative use of excludes my storage requirements for backups would be 
much greater. You need to do a lot of work with users, administrators, and dba's to 
get backups down to the bare minium. 

Let me know if you have any other questions.

John
Synovus

>>> "Hokanson, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/10/03 10:22AM >>>

John,

So all of your backup data is on the disk and none ever goes to tape? What is your 
retention? Are you device type file? How do you handle storage pool fragmentation? 
With 377 servers at 100gB nightly it seems you would fill your 4TB with about 40 day 
retention, correct?

Thanks a lot for your help,

Mark


 -----Original Message-----
From: John Underdown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 7:50 AM
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Subject: Re: TSM Disk Pool Management


Mark,

We been using a all disk backuppool for a number of years now. It's grown to 4TB, we 
just keep adding disk expansion to the server as we need more storage (We are now 
looking at the new ATA Raid Expansion Cabinets 3TB for $10,000).  We backup 377 
servers (80 to 100 GB total) nightly and growing. The TSM database is 15GB sitting on 
raid 10 with 15K rpm drives (very fast) , i also defrag the DB monthly. This is a 
dream setup and works very well, restores run in the blink of a eye. I run the TSM 
server  by myself as a part-time duty. The only problem you'll have is figuring out 
what to do with all your free time.

The is a common topic on the list, search the achives at www.adsm.org. Let me know if 
you have any questions.


John
Synovus
Synovus Makes FORTUNE '100 Best Companies To Work For' in America For Sixth Straight 
Year.

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Hokanson, Mark
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:15 AM
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Subject: TSM Disk Pool Management


We are considering creating an extremely large TSM disk storage pool
(IE: 1-10TB). The goal being to eliminate going to tape. Does anyone
have any really BIG disk pools? Are there tools available for managing
large TSM disk pools over time. (IE: Reclamation, Aging Data, etc) The
documentation from Tivoli suggests that we need to set it up as a device
type=FILE. What are the drawbacks using this approach? Is performance
dramatically impacted? etc...

Thanks in advance,

Mark Hokanson
Thomson Legal & Regulatory





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