> how is it possible those backups are associated
> with a mgmt class wich is not the default one,

See the ADSM-L archives at www.adsm.org for the
answer to this, as it was just discussed. Use
search criteria of:

   +raibeck +retonly +strange

to find the pertinent thread. This is also discussed
in the TSM Administrator's Guide in the chapter on
"Implementing Policies for Client Data".

> and why is the inserted date in show version
> slightly different from the one I have in the
> dsmsched log

The insertion date is per the clock on your TSM
server machine, while the dsmsched.log date is
per the clock on your TSM client machine. Even if
the client and server are on the same machine, it
is possible for the timestamps to be slightly
different, as insertion into the server database
is not synchronous with client logging.

Regards,

Andy

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IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Hi Faren,
You where right, only directories are backuped, so this solves part of
my questions, but one remains : how is it possible those backups are
associated with a mgmt class wich is not the default one, and why is the
inserted date in show version slightly different from the one I have in
the dsmsched log ?
Thanks anyway for your response, it helped me ;-))
Cheers.
Arnaud
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Hi Arnaud

Are there any files in the filespace when it reappers, or just
directories. As far as I know, the exclude command just excludes files.
The
exclude.dir command might be what you need. See below.

>From the TSM guide.

exclude.dir  Locates matching directory names.
If a matching directory is found, that directory, its files, and all its
subdirectories and their files are excluded from backup services.

Hope this helps

Thanks

Farren






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Hi folks !

Here is a case that seems really strange to me.
The picture : we have a node called pacrs170, that hosts a filespace
named /fsdbexp. We  used to backup this filespace daily, until we found
it was useless keeping that data. I then decided do delete this
filespace from TSM db, what worked perfectly : no trace from it at all,
using show version, q fi, q occ aso .....
The day after, I checked this node again, and found the filespace was
back, using q fi !
I am sure the filespace is excluded from my backup :
this is an extract of my inclexcl :

Exclude /fsdbexp/.../*
Exclude /fsdbexp/*

and this is an extract of backup log :

11/05/01   21:12:14 Normal File-->               847
/fsAdmin/DBA/TOOLS/SQL/upd_stats_ol2.sql [Sent]
11/05/01   21:12:17 Successful incremental backup of '/fsAdmin'
11/05/01   21:12:17 Successful incremental backup of '/fsdbexp'
11/05/01   21:12:17 Symbolic Link-->              18
/fr170ifxsrv2/chunk/lr170asd5101 [Sent]

This node belongs a policy domain who's default management class is
called AIX-SYSTEM, but was once backuped using another mgmt class called
backup_2_years, whose backup copy group has following caracteristics :
Versions Data Exists NOLIMIT
Versions Data Deleted NOLIMIT
Retain Extra Versions 730
Retain Only Version 730
Copy Mode MODIFIED
Copy Serialization SHRDYNAMIC
Copy Frequency 0
Copy Destination DISKPOOL_ARCH
If I now do a q occ for this node, I don't see nothing concerning this
/fsdbexp filespace, but if I do a q fi I obtain :
PACRS170                  /fsdbexp               AIX JFS
65,536.0           85.9

Doing a show version pacrs170 /fsdbexp gives me (snippet of it) :
/fsdbexp : / pacpan_save (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678174
/fsdbexp : / tivoli (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678175
/fsdbexp : /dbexp1/ HPL (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678176
/fsdbexp : /dbexp1/HPL/ agent (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678177
/fsdbexp : /dbexp1/HPL/ db_admin (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678178
Could anybody explain me why this filespace comes back when I delete it,
why I can see it using q fi, but not using q occ, and why "show version"
shows me those objects with inserted date corresponding (ok few seconds
difference) with the date of daily backup for this node, but using a
mgmt class not associated with this filespace in my incl-excl list,
furthermore this list excludes that filespace !???
Is it linked with the fact I backuped that filespace once using mgmt
class "backup_2_years" that has retain only version 730 days ? How could
I then definitely erase this data  ? I'm very confused, if anybody has a
clue ...
TIA.
Arnaud




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