Hi Faren,
You where right, only directories are backuped, so this solves part of
my questions, but one remains : how is it possible those backups are
associated with a mgmt class wich is not the default one, and why is the
inserted date in show version slightly different from the one I have in
the dsmsched log ?
Thanks anyway for your response, it helped me ;-))
Cheers.
Arnaud
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From: Farren Minns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Donnerstag, 8. November 2001 10:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM wizardry ?


Hi Arnaud

Are there any files in the filespace when it reappers, or just
directories. As far as I know, the exclude command just excludes files.
The
exclude.dir command might be what you need. See below.

>From the TSM guide.

exclude.dir  Locates matching directory names.
If a matching directory is found, that directory, its files, and all its
subdirectories and their files are excluded from backup services.

Hope this helps

Thanks

Farren






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Hi folks !

Here is a case that seems really strange to me.
The picture : we have a node called pacrs170, that hosts a filespace
named /fsdbexp. We  used to backup this filespace daily, until we found
it was useless keeping that data. I then decided do delete this
filespace from TSM db, what worked perfectly : no trace from it at all,
using show version, q fi, q occ aso .....
The day after, I checked this node again, and found the filespace was
back, using q fi !
I am sure the filespace is excluded from my backup :
this is an extract of my inclexcl :

Exclude /fsdbexp/.../*
Exclude /fsdbexp/*

and this is an extract of backup log :

11/05/01   21:12:14 Normal File-->               847
/fsAdmin/DBA/TOOLS/SQL/upd_stats_ol2.sql [Sent]
11/05/01   21:12:17 Successful incremental backup of '/fsAdmin'
11/05/01   21:12:17 Successful incremental backup of '/fsdbexp'
11/05/01   21:12:17 Symbolic Link-->              18
/fr170ifxsrv2/chunk/lr170asd5101 [Sent]

This node belongs a policy domain who's default management class is
called AIX-SYSTEM, but was once backuped using another mgmt class called
backup_2_years, whose backup copy group has following caracteristics :
Versions Data Exists NOLIMIT
Versions Data Deleted NOLIMIT
Retain Extra Versions 730
Retain Only Version 730
Copy Mode MODIFIED
Copy Serialization SHRDYNAMIC
Copy Frequency 0
Copy Destination DISKPOOL_ARCH
If I now do a q occ for this node, I don't see nothing concerning this
/fsdbexp filespace, but if I do a q fi I obtain :
PACRS170                  /fsdbexp               AIX JFS
65,536.0           85.9

Doing a show version pacrs170 /fsdbexp gives me (snippet of it) :
/fsdbexp : / pacpan_save (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678174
/fsdbexp : / tivoli (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678175
/fsdbexp : /dbexp1/ HPL (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678176
/fsdbexp : /dbexp1/HPL/ agent (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678177
/fsdbexp : /dbexp1/HPL/ db_admin (MC: BACKUP_2_YEARS)
Active, Inserted 11/07/01 21:11:54
ObjId: 0.91678178
Could anybody explain me why this filespace comes back when I delete it,
why I can see it using q fi, but not using q occ, and why "show version"
shows me those objects with inserted date corresponding (ok few seconds
difference) with the date of daily backup for this node, but using a
mgmt class not associated with this filespace in my incl-excl list,
furthermore this list excludes that filespace !???
Is it linked with the fact I backuped that filespace once using mgmt
class "backup_2_years" that has retain only version 730 days ? How could
I then definitely erase this data  ? I'm very confused, if anybody has a
clue ...
TIA.
Arnaud




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