No, totally separate processes.  Collocation is an option to use or not.  Reclamation 
is a basic requirement (well some may not use it) to free up unused space on tapes and 
reduce your tape inventory.

David Longo

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Hello to all,
I have a very basic question ( I am new user ) is the Reclaims process the
same as colocation??

Garry

-----Original Message-----
From: Lindsay Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Reclaims Ques


Thanks Richard, Eric, all---

I've seen the reclaim-won't-let-go situation a lot, and sometimes tried to
cancel the reclamation process ---
and STILL, more often than not, it takes 40 minutes for cancel process to
take effect!

I didn't have NOPREEMPT set (unless it's a default value -- I think it's
not);
I didn't have huge files;
I've seen this on DLT700 and on 3590 drives;

For me it's more curiosity than critical; maybe it's a major annotance for
some other people.
I wonder if any developers can shed some light.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: Reclaims Ques
>
>
> Hi Lindsay and Richard!
> I have seen the exact same thing here!
> The day before yesterday a user called me about an Oracle database restore
> that was taking quite some time. I did a q sess and saw that it was in a
> MediaW state. I have two tape units and TSM was reclaiming a tape. I was
> also expecting to see the preempting message, but the reclaim was not
> canceled by TSM. As soon as I did a CANCEL PROC the reclaim stopped, the
> tapes were dismounted, the clients tape was mounted and the client restore
> continued.
> Yesterday we did the exact same thing and the running reclaim WAS
> cancel by
> a preemption!
> So prioritizing works.... Sometimes...
> Kindest regards,
> Eric van Loon
> KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 21:48
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: Reclaims Ques
>
>
> >How long does it usually take for the reclamation process to
> actually stop,
> >and release the tape drive(s) so the restore can use them?  I've
> typically
> >seen this be 40 minutes or more, but I'm not sure why,  or if something
> >could be done to speed it up.
>
> Lindsay - The first thing I would check is whether you have NOPREEMPT in
>           your server options file.  Reclamation of onsite volumes itself
> takes a long time, but at least looks at the Reclamation Threshold between
> volumes: offsite volume reclamation never looks back, just continuing to
> process all the volumes it saw that it had to do when it started.
>
> If you don't have NOPREEMPT in force, there may be something else at play.
> Do queries in a future situation and see if an explicit Cancel Process
> will stop reclamation.
>
>   Richard Sims, BU
>
>
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