Hi Sean,
Bare Metal Restore does not require NIM. We can coexist with NIM but it is
not required to run our software. Since we spoke at Planet Tivoli, BMR has
had many new enhancements including HP, Solaris, AIX and NT support. You
can take a look at our website www.tkg.com for additional information.
Patti Dean
The Kernel Group, Inc.
724-573-4414
724-573-4410 Fax
Core confidence for e-business.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sean McNamara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>Does BMR software still need to utilize NIM or have they re-engineered the
>software?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sean
>
>Sean McNamara
>Senior Analyst
>PJM Interconnection L.L.C.
>(610)666-4206
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 08:28
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>
>> I just wanted to let you guys know, that I in no way think that the BMR
>> software
>> or TKG are a bad idea, we looked at the product about a month ago, and I
did
>> mention that when they were here they did mention that they were still
working
>> on some things, It is the theory of our shop to not go live with a new
product
>> as soon as it is release, which is why I stated that we were going to
>> reinvestigate the product next year, I think that TKG is offering a great
>> product and our issues were when they were still releasing the product
for NT,
>> I
>> am aware that they were/are working on many changes.
>>
>> That is why I was offering the contact information of the person we
worked
>> with,
>> there response to us, and demonstration of the product were of
outstanding
>> Customer Service, I just dont want anyone to think that we were putting
down
>> the company or there product (or that I advocated not going with the
product),
>> I
>> am still interested in BMR, But I have also been informed by my superiors
that
>> we will be waiting until next summer after the product has been in
circulation
>> for a little.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Shawn D. King
>>
>> Data Protection Manager
>> International Data Group
>> 5 Speen Street
>> Framingham, MA 01701
>>
>> (508) 935-4391
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex Paschal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/12/2000 04:32:40 PM
>>
>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> cc: (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>
>>
>>
>> We're currently using BMR under AIX. Our environment is complicated by
the
>> fact that we use DCE/DFS. BMR is slick. I'm currently trying to get our
NT
>> group to take a look at it also.
>>
>> I don't know what issues Shawn ran into, but when we were evaluating and
>> testing BMR, we found several things we wanted changed/fixed and some
issues
>> that cropped up solely in DFS file systems. We informed The Kernel Group
>> about them and the changes we requested were included in the next release
in
>> a matter of weeks. The response/turnaround time was VERY nice. We also
had
>> James Wang, the Vice President of Services for TKG, on site during our
>> trials, which undoubtedly helped with the priority of our requests.
<Grin>
>>
>> All in all, I was impressed with the product and with the organization
>> itself.
>>
>> Alex Paschal
>> Storage Administrator
>> Freightliner, LLC
>> (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shawn D. King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:56 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>
>>
>> I worked with Patty Dean, this is her email
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>> She is a Sales Rep for The Kernal Group, She is who we worked with, she
came
>> out
>> with a Tech Specialist and they worked with us for the day. Let me
>> know if
>> you need any other information I would be happy to assist you
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Shawn D. King
>>
>> Data Protection Manager
>> International Data Group
>> 5 Speen Street
>> Framingham, MA 01701
>>
>> (508) 935-4391
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kovacs, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/12/2000 09:08:53 AM
>>
>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> cc: (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>
>>
>>
>> Shawn,
>>
>> He have both UNIX and NT servers running in our shop. We have
both
>> NT and HP-UX TSM servers, so it should not be a problem. I would like to
>> get a contact that can give us some good technical insight into the
product
>> and how well it works.
>>
>> I was even wondering if you can use it to quickly create a
recovery
>> partition, load a basic OS and TSM clients, and then run a normal full
TSM
>> recovery.
>>
>> thanks,
>> mark
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:49 AM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>> >
>> > Hi Mark
>> >
>> > We had The Kernel Group come out to our company about a month ago and
they
>> > were
>> > going to do a demonstration of the product, Our shop is mostly NT, but
we
>> > also
>> > are running Novell, and Digital Open VMS and the Kernel Group Software
>> > runs on a
>> > Unix Platform, If you have a Unix environment the product may work
well,
>> > but In
>> > our environment, there were too many variables that had to be met
(ie:the
>> > client
>> > being restored, the TSM Server, and the BMR Server all needed to be on
the
>> > same
>> > Network) Our environment had 4 virtual Networks, and it took us most of
>> > the day
>> > the set up the environment for the demo, and in the end, the product
did
>> > not
>> > restore the system, I ended up working that night restoring the machine
>> > with the
>> > TSM product by itself.
>> >
>> > As I mentioned, I am a NT shop, and the product is not ready for NT as
of
>> > yet,
>> > they kept telling me that day that they were still developing the
product
>> > to
>> > work with NT, and by early next year it should perform better with NT,
In
>> > theory
>> > the product seems like a god send, you are suppose to be able to just
boot
>> > up to
>> > the BMR Server and you are suppose to be able to just walk away while
your
>> > restore goes unattended. I am still interested in the product, but I
think
>> > I am
>> > going to wait until next year to give the developers of BMR some time
to
>> > work
>> > out the kinks that are still in the system.
>> >
>> > If you are interested a demo of the product I can give you a contact
name,
>> > I
>> > know that they will be more then willing to come out to your site and
do a
>> > demo
>> > of the product for you.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Shawn D. King
>> >
>> > Data Protection Manager
>> > International Data Group
>> > 5 Speen Street
>> > Framingham, MA 01701
>> >
>> > (508) 935-4391
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Kovacs, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/12/2000 07:46:17 AM
>> >
>> > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > cc: (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
>> > Subject: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > TSMers,
>> >
>> > Does anyone have experience with the Bare Metal Restore product
>> > from
>> > the Kernel Group ? I've seen their information at
>> > http://www.tkg.com/bmr/
>> > and was wondering if anyone else has used it. Any feedback would be
>> > greatly
>> > appreciated !
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > mark
>
