Werner, It sounds to be like you have a 7337 15 slot DLT changer???. Regardless ... you can checkout the DB tape from the changer/robot without deleting it from VOLHIST. And then put a new scratch in for use. Setup a procedure where your operators can perform this every day at the appropriate time ... ???? cheers ... joe.f. P.S> if you do have a 7337 why are you not using all 15 slots? Don't waste one on the clean cartridge just have OPS do that too! Joseph A Faracchio, Systems Programmer, UC Berkeley On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Werner Nussbaumer wrote: > Thank you for your answer. Yes, I agree: for the BACKUP DB I need only 1 tape. > But the second time I need another tape, because the other can only be expired > if there is a second backup of the DB. > > I just ask if we have a tape library with 14 tapes each with 35MB/70MB Data. > The DB may use 1 to 2 GB so this is a waste of tape space because tapes with a > BACKUP DB can't be used for other backups? I think what I will do: I backup to > DB to another adsm server and backup the DB there. > > I have another question: Is it possible to create *one* tape containing the DB > and the client data which then could be taken offsite and what commands should > I use? > > Thanks for help in advance, > Regards > Werner Nussbaumer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Dienstag, 18. Juli 2000 15:56 > To: ADSM-L > Cc: rbs > Subject: Re: BACKUP DB need a least 2 Tapes? > > > >But the BACKUP DB to tape therefore need 2 tapes, because one contains the > >active version which can't be deleted. Therefore the BACKUP DB needs another > >tape if I want to BACKUP DB to tape. > > Again, the Backup operation itself does *not* demand that there be 2 tapes. > It is the DELete VOLHistory command which wants at least one backup copy > to be existent. See APARs IX86694 and IX86661. > You should not be trying to skimp on tapes in such matters: you cannot > afford to lose the *SM database. If your management is on your case > about spending money on a few tapes, question them as to why they are > doing backups. > Richard Sims, BU >