Hi, On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 06:25:21PM +0100, denis walker wrote: > Many years ago I questioned why we ever invented a market for address > space 'that no one owns' when we had a perfectly good system of > allocating address space based on need and when no longer needed was > returned to the RIR to be re-allocated...for free. I was told 'don't > be silly, people will still sell the address space but not record the > transfers in the RIPE Database'. So the quality of the registry > diminishes. What is going to stop people selling these 'never to be > transferred' allocations and not recording the transfer in the RIPE > Database? I am sure some back door dealings can be arranged to keep > the LIRs active that have the allocations registered and obfuscate the > fee payments to confuse the RIPE NCC. Have companies developed some > sense of morality in recent years?
If the LIR fee is still to be paid, this is commercially not very
attractive - and as such, should stop the business model "open a LIR,
get a /24 for <x> EUR, sell it for <5*x>" nicely.
Note that we always acknowledged the need for a block of addresses
to "change hands", by mergers & acquisition. Having a formal transfer
policy was basically just accepting that people would hide this in
a company sale otherwise.
My proposal is actually to disallow transfers *including* disallowing
M&A transfers on these. It MUST stay in the LIR it was requested by,
and if the LIR closes, it MUST be returned.
Buying a "company with the LIR" would still be possible, of course
(and I do not see a way to disallow this, it's like MS trying to
disallow selling used windows licenses), but "... and then transferring,
and closing the LIR" would not.
Gert Doering
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