Watson,

> On Dec 19, 2024, at 11:00 AM, Watson Ladd <watsonbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Any solution will have to involve the device doing something, and something 
> validating the device. If we can get the user ISP (I know, I know), to 
> produce a residential domain setup like fijinb23.users.example.com, then the 
> router ((I know I know)can somehow gather that a new printer has been added, 
> give the printer printer.fijnb23.users.example.com via communication to the 
> ISP, and set the DNS challenge entries to respond to a request for DCV 
> validation that results in a cert being sent back to the printer with a CSR 
> the printer generates.
> 
> There's lots of problems here, but I think this strawman shows the problem 
> can be solved, and it's just a matter of improvements.

OK, so since discovery depends on DNS-SD (either using mDNS or traditional 
DNS), we'd need a way for IoT devices to push their DNS-SD records up to the 
DNS server, and/or for the ACME service to issue certificates that *also* have 
the .local name as a SAN (something they won't do right now because they cannot 
validate the address...)

This also has huge privacy issues - it is one thing to require local services 
to be published/registered/validated locally, but quite another to make them 
globally visible (if not globally accessible).

Finally, this also depends on having Internet connectivity which IMHO makes 
this a non-starter, even for homes that have a dedicated Internet service.  For 
example, my Starlink service drops out regularly as satellites transit 
overhead, and cellular similarly comes and goes for a variety of reasons.  We 
need a *local* trusted authority for *local* services.

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Michael Sweet

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