Ah, sorry. Just reread your email and see you did try that.  If I were
concerned a change in code broke it, I would  look at change logs or `diff`
the code.

On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 1:54 PM Clout Tolstoy <tolstoycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you tried the mice on another OS or install of plan9?
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 1:13 PM <cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org> wrote:
>
>> I have a couple of HP M-U0013-O USB optical mice which have recently
>> began generating phantom mouse clicks.  I'm at a complete loss for
>> figuring out what's going on, here.
>> 
>> Based on the recommended hardware list on the Plan 9 Wiki (back when it
>> was still live), I bought a Hewlett Packard DY651A USB optical mouse.
>> Knowing that everything eventually breaks, I actually ordered two of
>> them, so I would have one as a "critical spare" to swap-in when/if the
>> first mouse ever failed.  The mice which I received were actually model
>> M-U0013-O, not DY651A, but they appeared the same as the DY651A.  I had
>> been using the M-U0013-O regularly, for about 13 years, without any
>> problems, since I bought the pair of mice in 2011.
>> 
>> Then, just a couple of months ago, one of the M-U0013-O began generating
>> spurious button-1 clicks.  When I pressed down button-1, the mouse would
>> behave as if I was pressing and releasing button-1 in rapid succession.
>> It was kind of like the mouse somehow switched from semi-automatic to
>> full automatic fire.  :) But it didn't happen with buttons 2 or 3, just
>> button 1.  Since the mouse was more than a decade old, and button 1 is
>> used more than buttons 2 or 3, I figured some metal part (maybe a spring
>> or switch) had fatigued.  The malfunction appeared to be classic switch
>> bouncing, so I swapped out the first M-U0013-O for the "critical spare"
>> M-U0013-O.  To my amazement, the second M-U0013-O exhibited the same
>> exact behavior (phantom rapid-fire button-1 clicks) despite the fact
>> that it had been sitting, unused, in a box for 13 years.
>> 
>> The strange thing is how intermittent the malfunctions are.  Sometimes
>> button-1 works fine.  Other times, it acts like someone secretly slipped
>> an autoseer into the mouse.  It happens whether the mouse is connected
>> to a desktop or to a laptop.  It happens at home, and away from home.
>> It also happens when I use the laptop in a completely different town.
>> When there is RFI on a USB cable, the Linux kernel's USB driver will
>> often generate errors, but I wasn't receiving any of those error
>> messages.  There aren't any cell towers near my house.  There is a cell
>> site hidden in the steeple of a nearby church, but that's been there for
>> decades, and there's no way it could possibly affect my mouse when I'm
>> two towns away.  Although they are easily hidden, I'm not aware of any
>> 5G antennae in the area which have gone up in the past couple of months.
>> Both my next-door neighbor and I are ham radio operators.  But, like the
>> cell site, that couldn't cause these problems when I'm out of town.  I
>> never carry a cell phone, smartwatch, or even any devices that use
>> Bluetooth.  The only wireless charger I use (for my toothbrush) sits at
>> home, next to the sink.  I've even checked the "spaceweather."  These
>> phantom clicks occur even when the spaceweather is clear: no solar
>> flares or geomagnetic storms.
>> 
>> Yes, I'm sure I'm using the mouse correctly, just the same as I have for
>> the past decade.  This is not user error!  I don't have parkinsons,
>> seizures, or a pacemaker.  I'm not sneezing while I click.  I'm not
>> shivering from cold or trembling in fear.  I'm quite certain I'm not
>> hallucinating the spurious clicks, either.  I'm just completely baffled.
>> 
>> The thought of "planned obsolesence" came to mind... both mice might
>> have been designed to fail after a certain period of time after their
>> manufacture.  But one of them went completely unused (and, thus, unworn)
>> that whole time.  Even if the failure were pre-programmed in firmware,
>> there's no way the spare mouse could possibly know what year it is,
>> because the USB HID protocol doesn't report that information to mice.
>> It's also highly unlikely that anyone could have sabotaged the mice.  I
>> keep tight physical control over my hardware and... more realistically,
>> why would anyone pull such a BIZARRE prank?  I have made no changes to
>> either hardware or software during the past couple of months, when the
>> strange behavior began.
>> 
>> Has anyone here experienced this problem with the HP DY651A or M-U0013-O
>> mice?  Since it's recommended "Plan 9" hardware, I figure someone else
>> here might have encountered the same problem.  Any idea what could be
>> causing these mice to hallucinate mouse clicks?

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