On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 10:24:23PM -0800, Ron Minnich wrote: [very interesting stuff] > > Finally, why did something like this not ever happen? Because GPUs > came along a few years later and that's where all the parallelism in > HPC is nowadays. NIX was a nice idea, but it did not survive in the > GPU era. >
GPUs are actually wreaking havoc other kernels, with, in the Unix world, X11 being in a bad shape for several reasons, one being that GPU are not limited to graphical display---this tends to be anecdoctical in some sense. Can you elaborate on the GPUs paradigm break? I tend to think that there is a main difference between "equals" sharing a same address space via MMU, and auxiliary processors that are using another address space. A GPU, as far as I know (this is not much), is an auxiliary processor when the GPU is discrete, and is a specialized processor sharing the same address space when integrated (but I guess that a HPC have discrete GPUs with perhaps a specialized connection). Do you know good references about: - organizing processors depending on memory connection---I found mainly M. J. Flynn's paper(s) about this, but nothing more recent---and the impact on an OS design; - IPC vs threads---from your description, it seems that your solution was multiplying processes so IPC instead of multiplying threads---but nonetheless the sharing of differing memories remains, and is more easy to solve with IPC than with threads; - Present GPU's architecture (supposing it is documented; it seems not totally from "General-Purpose Graphics Processor Archictectures", Aamodt, Lun Fung, Rogers, SpringerVerlag) and the RISC-V approach, composing hardware by connecting dedicated elements, and vectors vs SIMT. Thanks for sharing (what can be shared)! -- Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ kergis +dot+ com> http://www.kergis.com/ http://kertex.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T7692a612f26c8ec5-M653db3e6d646319c4c05e9b1 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription