are you contributing the team? and paying the team? On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 2:22 AM <vester.thac...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > The complexity of communication in this medium often necessitates detailed > discussions. You highlighted the need for additional personnel to manage the > workload (e.g. do the work). From my perspective, this requires a > well-defined vision, clear objectives, and a prioritized list of deliverables > to align efforts effectively. Currently, it seems the role of product > managers is collectively held, though it's unclear who exactly is > responsible. Typically, a team of two or more individuals would focus on > these deliverables. In past projects, I've seen the use of a project board > to keep everyone updated on tasks—an approach known as "information radiator" > in project management. I'm open to other methods if you had something > different in mind that I may have overlooked. If you are considering a > meritocracy, I would recommend caution. Experience has shown that what we > truly need is increased collaboration and unity, rather than a system that > could potentially encourage competition and division. I apologize if my > message is obtuse, I am trying to keep this message concise, I can expound > more for clarity. I hope my explanation helps. > > Vic > > > On Mon, May 13, 2024, at 03:36, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > that's not what I said. > > > > Quoth vic.thac...@fastmail.fm: > >> I agree that having a clear vision and charter is essential before forming > >> a team. Regarding building an inclusive Plan 9 community that encompasses > >> multiple groups, it's important to establish common goals and values that > >> resonate with all members. What are your thoughts on creating open > >> channels for dialogue and collaboration? How can we ensure that everyone > >> feels valued and heard? This approach could foster a more cooperative and > >> inclusive environment. > >> > >> Vic > >> > >> > >> On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 16:19, pl...@room3420.net wrote: > >> > "tl;dr: you need people doing the work before you can try > >> > to organize them; the way to get people doing the work is > >> > to bootstrap it by doing work and showing value." [from Ori]. > >> > or > >> > "Don't be the kid who can't play [whatever]ball but wants to teach > >> > everybody and be the team coach, just because he read a book."
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