I’m late to the thread, but this seems like a good point to step in.

I’m using plan9 on a quad-core Raspberry Pi as a sort of universal terminal to 
manage some of my home machines, and recently deleted the 9front VM I had on my 
home KVM server because even though the programming model and Go support were 
nice, most of my day-to-day work is on cloud solutions and there was no easy 
way to make those co-exist with Plan9 usage.

There were a few discussions in this thread around dev stacks, browsers, etc., 
and my $0.02 on that is that I could probably work in Plan9 on a daily basis 
_if_ it had a usable (i.e., all the warts including JavaScript and fonts) web 
browser, but that the lack of alignment (intended or otherwise) with Linux 
tools and app stacks (SSH, Node, Python, Java) would make it very painful.

Running a remote browser (which is what I do often in that Pi) sort of works, 
but you never get the full benefits you’d get with a native process. And lack 
of access to modern app stacks renders the platform unattractive for mainstream 
development work.

But what killed it for me was the need for chording (mouse or keys). Using a 
modern trackpad on a MacBook or Surface device is a quantum leap beyond using a 
mouse for general use, and the lack of a modernised Rio with enough thoughtful 
design to overcome the differences in philosophy is the first barrier to 
continued usage.

Acme is something I miss on occasion, but modern GUI editors compensate in 
other ways (at the expense of resource usage, etc., but with a massive boost in 
productivity for me). Also, I’m typing this on an iMac 5K with nearly unmatched 
font rendering and legibility (the only thing that comes close is the Surface 
Pro alongside it). Visuals matter a great deal.

There is an unmatchable degree of purity in Plan9, but (even though the 
diehards will stick their ground and claim it’s perfect to the exclusion of 
other modern comforts) to coexist successfully it has to provide more 
affordances.

Kind Regards,

R.

> On 14 Jun 2018, at 04:53, 刘宇宝 <liuyu...@yingmi.cn> wrote:
> 
> Compared to "not for you", "don't care",  "intend to not be successful", I 
> like more the topic of cat-v irc channel on freenode set by aiju:  "fun fact: 
> you can use multiple operating systems at the same time".
> 
> Certainly Plan 9 can't replace Linux/macOS/BSD/Windows, I'm still curious its 
> upper bound for a sensible daily usage,  and the best practice from you happy 
> experienced Plan 9 users.
> 
> I checked mail headers in this mailing list, seems all use Apple Mail, iPhone 
> Mail, WebMail with AJAX, Gmail(a lot), ProtonMail,  these emails went through 
> Postfix and Exim servers, probably on Linux.
> 
> In great harmony, we use kinds of operating system and kinds of software on 
> them.
> 
> Regards,
> Yubao Liu
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2018, at 10:53 AM, N. S. Montanaro <n...@airmail.cc> wrote:
>> 
>> I think a lot of people discover Plan 9 and want it to be something it 
>> isn’t, rather than stumble upon it out of necessity. As the FQA says, “Plan 
>> 9 is not for you."
> 


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