On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen <eri...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sep 21, 2009, at 9:33 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
>  "We're getting bloated and huge. Yes, it's a problem," said Torvalds."
>>>>
>>>
>>> So may be Tanenbaum was right, after all, there's a reason we make
>>> things modular.
>>>
>>
>> rob, presotto, ken and phil did not agree with tanenbaum's
>> ideas about modular kernels.
>>
>> this was a direct response to ast many years ago.  it was
>> hard to dig up when i did so in 2006.  perhaps someone
>> has a better link:
>>
>>  - Microkernels are the way to go
>>       False unless your only goal is to get papers published.
>>       Plan 9's kernel is a fraction of the size of any microkernel
>>       we know and offers more functionality and comparable
>>       or often better performance.
>>
>>
> IMHO, that statement applies to existing microkernel implementations (at
> the time? perhaps still?) -- its not clear to me that they inherently must
> be that way.
> Likely their use as "fuel for papers and PhD's" contributed to their bloat.
>
>      -eric
>
>
>
At that time, and even today, microkernels are "academically bloated".
 However some of the more practical academics (yeah I know it's like jumbo
shrimp or military intelligence) have spun very interesting things off like
 OKL4, which is running in several cellular telephones, and on Qualcomm
equipment, possibly with a Linux personality ported to it.

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