Hi,

From: 6lo <6lo-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2022 13:42
To: Kiran Makhijani <kiran.i...@gmail.com>; carle...@entel.upc.edu; 6lo@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

Hello Kiran

Note that the core of the work is an autoconfiguration model along a fixed tree 
structure, and the desired “side effects” are implicit routing and short 
addresses. For short addresses, we already have SCHC and 6LoWPAN so that would 
not be a sufficient argument.

Concerning the short addresses, it is true that SCHC and 6LowPAN go a long way.
However, as we state in the last version of the doc (but I will make it sure to 
clarify more) the main advantage is stateless forwarding.
The latter goes a long way in reducing control packets in the network and 
memory usage on the nodes.


Now, I do not see how your point on IIoT matches this specification. Since a 
main objection (though not the only one) is the lack of applicability, this may 
help. Could you please elaborate?
In particular, which industrial protocol would benefit from this automatic 
assignment of IP addresses (vs. Say, mapping the protocol address into an IID 
or something)?

We did not explore IIoT scenarios so I have no answer to where are the benefits.
I would argue, however, that the fact the solutions exists already does not 
mean that other newer solutions would not bring any advantage.

@Kiran: looking forward to discuss more on this topic with you.

Ciao

L.


Many thanks in advance;

Pascal

From: 6lo <6lo-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:6lo-boun...@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of 
Kiran Makhijani
Sent: mardi 16 août 2022 2:08
To: carle...@entel.upc.edu<mailto:carle...@entel.upc.edu>; 
6lo@ietf.org<mailto:6lo@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

Hello,
I have quickly skimmed through the document and would like to see this work 
progress.

I see that the focus is mainly on wireless constrained devices, however, in 
industrial networks with field devices it is useful to have short and variable 
addressing schemes on a factory floor. Variable addressing approach is more 
interesting here because, on one side the controllers may use IPv6 addresses 
and field-devices on the other end can very well be shorter addresses.

I support this document and wouldn't mind contributing to the alignment with 
above mentioned scenario.

Cheers,

Kiran

________________________________
From: Carles Gomez Montenegro [mailto:carle...@entel.upc.edu]
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022, 7:58 AM
To: 6lo@ietf.org<mailto:6lo@ietf.org>
Subject: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03


Dear 6lo WG,



This message starts a call for WG adoption for

draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03.



(Link below:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03)



Considering that some folks may be on vacation currently or in the next

few days, the call will end on the 22nd of August, EOB.



Please state whether you are in favor of adopting this document.



Also, any comments you may have, and/or expressions of interest to review

the document, will be very much appreciated.



Thanks,



Shwetha and Carles



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