You do seem to misunderstand ZIL.

ZIL is quite simply write cache and using a short stroked rotating drive is
never going to provide a performance increase that is worth talking about
and more importantly ZIL was designed to be used with a RAM/Solid State
Disk.

We use sata2 *HyperDrive5* RAM disks in mirrors and they work well and are
far cheaper than STEC or other enterprise SSD's and have non of the issue
related to trim...

Highly recommended... ;-)

http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk/

Kevin


On 29 December 2010 13:40, Edward Ned Harvey <
opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com> wrote:

> > From: Bob Friesenhahn [mailto:bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:23 PM
> >
> > > The question of IOPS here is relevant to conversation because of ZIL
> > > dedicated log.  If you have advanced short-stroking to get the write
> latency
> > > of a log device down to zero, then it can compete against SSD for
> purposes
> > > of a log device, but nobody seems to believe such technology currently
> > > exists, and it certainly couldn't compete against SSD for random reads.
> > > (ZIL log is the only situation I know of, where write performance of a
> drive
> > > matters and read performance does not matter.)
> >
> > It seems that you may be confused.  For the ZIL the drive's rotational
> > latency (based on RPM) is the dominating factor and not the lateral
> > head seek time on the media.  In this case, the "short-stroking" you
> > are talking about does not help any.  The ZIL is already effectively
> > "short-stroking" since it writes in order.
>
> Nope.  I'm not confused at all.  I'm making a distinction between "short
> stroking" and "advanced short stroking."  Where simple "short stroking"
> does
> as you said - eliminates the head seek time but still susceptible to
> rotational latency.  As you said, the ZIL already effectively accomplishes
> that end result, provided a dedicated spindle disk for log device, but does
> not do that if your ZIL is on the pool storage.  And what I'm calling
> "advanced short stroking" are techniques that effectively eliminate, or
> minimize both seek & latency, to zero or near-zero.  What I'm calling
> "advanced short stroking" doesn't exist as far as I know, but is
> theoretically possible through either special disk hardware or special
> drivers.
>
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