On Fri, May 21, 2010 12:59, Brandon High wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:12 AM, David Dyer-Bennet <d...@dd-b.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 19:44, Freddie Cash wrote:
>>> And you can always patch OpenSSH with HPN, thus enabling the NONE
>>> cipher,
>>> which disable encryption for the data transfer (authentication is
>>> always
>>> encrypted).  And twiddle the internal buffers that OpenSSH uses to
>>> improve
>>> transfer rates, especially on 100 Mbps or faster links.
>>
>> Ah!  I've been wanting that for YEARS.  Very glad to hear somebody has
>> done it.
>
> ssh-1 has had the 'none' cipher from day one, though it looks like
> openssh has removed it at some point. Fixing the buffers seems to be a
> nice tweak though.

I thought I remembered a "none" cipher, but couldn't find it the other
year and decided I must have been wrong.  I did use ssh-1, so maybe I
really WAS remembering after all.

>> With the common use of SSH for for moving bulk data (under rsync as
>> well),
>> this is a really useful idea.  Of course one should think about where
>> one
>
> I think there's a certain assumption that using ssh = safe, and by
> enabling a none cipher you break that assumption. All of us know
> better, but less experienced admins may not.

Seems a high price to pay to try to protect idiots from being idiots. 
Anybody who doesn't understand that "encryption = none" means it's not
encrypted and hence not safe isn't safe as an admin anyway.
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