On Apr 6, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 19:43 -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote:
>> On 4/6/2010 3:41 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 08:26 -0700, Anil wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> Seems a nice sale on Newegg for SSD devices. Talk about choices. What's 
>>>> the latest recommendations for a log device?
>>>> 
>>>> http://bit.ly/aL1dne
>>>> 
>>> The Vertex LE models should do well as ZIL  (though not as well as an
>>> X25-E or a Zeus) for all non-enterprise users.
>>> 
>>> The X25-M is still the best choice for a L2ARC device, but the Vertex
>>> Turbo or Cosair Nova are good if you're on a budget.
>>> 
>>> If you really want an SSD a boot drive, or just need something for
>>> L2ARC, the various Intel X25-V models are cheap, if not a really great
>>> performers. I'd recommend one of these if you want an SSD for rpool, or
>>> if you need a large L2ARC for dedup (or similar) and can't afford
>>> anything in the X25-M price range.  You should also be OK with a Corsair
>>> Reactor in this performance category.
>>> 
>>> 
>> What about if you want to get one that you can use for both the rpool,
>> and ZIL (for another data pool?)
>> What if you want one for all 3 (rpool, ZIL, L2ARC)??
>> 
>> -Kyle
>> 
> 
> It all boils down to performance and the tradeoffs you are willing to
> make.  For good ZIL, you want something that has a very high IOPS rating
> (50,000+ if possible, 10,000+ minimum, particularly when writing small
> chunks).

High write IOPS :-)

> For L2ARC, you are more concerned with total size/capacity, and
> modest IOPS (3000-10000 IOPS, or the ability to write at least 100Mb/s
> at 4-8k write sizes, plus as high as possible read I/O).

The L2ARC fill rate is throttled to 16 MB/sec at boot and 8 MB/sec later.
Many SSDs work well as L2ARC cache devices.

> For rpool use,
> you don't really care about performance so much, as it's almost
> exclusively read-only

Yep

> (one should generally not configure a swap device
> on an SSD-based rpool).

Disagree.  Swap is a perfectly fine workload for SSDs.  Under ZFS, 
even more so.  I'd really like to squash this rumour and thought we 
were making progress on that front :-(  Today, there are millions or 
thousands of systems with deployed SSDs as boot and swap on a
wide variety of OSes.  Go for it.

> You could probably live with an X25-M as something to use for all three,
> but of course you're making tradeoffs all over the place.

That would be better than almost any HDD on the planet because
the HDD tradeoffs result in much worse performance.
 -- richard

ZFS storage and performance consulting at http://www.RichardElling.com
ZFS training on deduplication, NexentaStor, and NAS performance
Las Vegas, April 29-30, 2010 http://nexenta-vegas.eventbrite.com 

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