On Mar 20, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Brandon High wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Richard Elling <richard.ell...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> For those disinclined to click, data retention when mirroring wins over raidz
> when looking at the problem from the perspective of number of drives
> available.  Why? Because 5+1 raidz survives the loss of any disk, but 3 sets
> of 2-way mirrors can survive the loss of 3 disks, as long as 2 of those disks
> are not in the same set. The rest is just math.
> 
> The one dimension left out in your comparison is the portion of space that's 
> available for use vs. redundancy overhead. I'm sure you just never thought of 
> it. ;-)

There are two dimensions missing: space and performance.

> For 12 disks using a 4-way mirror, you'd have 75% overhead but the best 
> MTTDL. raidz3 is only 25% overhead, but provides a better MTTDL than 3-way 
> mirrors (at 66% overhead). raidz2 (16% overhead) has better MTTDL than 2-way 
> mirrors (at 50%).

The "all-in" post puts all three on one chart, but in this case it is
for 46 disks, not 12.
http://blogs.sun.com/relling/entry/zfs_raid_recommendations_space_performance1

> So clearly, if fault tolerance is the absolute most important factor, a 
> really big mirror is best. This will also give very good read performance. I 
> imagine a 12-way mirror would last a while (2.09E+57 years according to 
> Richard's formula) but it's also at high cost.
> 
> I think the only real route to follow is to determine how much space you 
> need, and then optimize MTTDL and performance around that constraint. If you 
> determine that you need 10 TB available, then (using 1.5T drives) you need to 
> use at least 7 disks for data. That means a 12-disk raidz3 (13.5 TB), or 2x 
> 6-disk raidz2 (12 TB). The raidz3 will have higher fault tolerance, but lower 
> performance.

Indeed.  Space, performance, dependability: pick two
 -- richard

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