On 03/17/2010 08:28 PM, Khyron wrote:
The Best Practices Guide is also very clear about send and receive NOT
being
designed explicitly for backup purposes. I find it odd that so many
people seem to
want to force this point. ZFS appears to have been designed to allow
the use of
well known tools that are available today to perform backups and
restores. I'm not
sure how many people are actually using NFS v4 style ACLs, but those
people have
the most to worry about when it comes to using tar or NetBackup or
Networker or
Amanda or Bacula or star to backup ZFS file systems. Everyone else,
which appears
to be the majority of people, have many tools to choose from, tools
they've used
for a long time in various environments on various platforms. The
learning curve
doesn't appear to be as steep as most people seem to make it out to
be. I honestly
think many people may be making this issue more complex than it needs
to be.
Maybe the people having the most problems are those who are new to
Solaris, but
if you have any real *nix experience, Solaris shouldn't be that
difficult to figure out,
especially for those with System V experience. The Linux folks?
Well, I sorta feel
sorry for you and I sorta don't.
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My only comment would be that your assumption is that most people are
backing up their stuff via gzipped archives or using 3rd party
solutions. I would argue (at least in my environment) that the majority
of backups pre-zfs was doing using ufsdump. When ZFS came along it
obsoleted ufsdump and their was no direct replacement. For my situation
we have created some custom python code to wrap send/receive stuff
between our machine's pools and our backup server pool. It would be
nice, however, if some sort of enterprise level backup solution in the
style of ufsdump was introduced to ZFS.
--
Steve
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